Poker Superstars Buy In a Fraud! - Page 2

slickpoppa · #11 02-07-2005, 06:45 PM

Duke and Hellmuth had no reason to tell anyone else if they made a deal. In fact, they had several really good reasons not to. In addition to possibly forfeiting their winnings, I'm sure that Phil would not want to tarnish his bad boy image by admitting to making a deal with Annie.

freekobe · #12 02-07-2005, 06:59 PM

OK. You win. I have no idea what I'm talking about.

maurile · #13 02-07-2005, 07:05 PM

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Of course you don't. Annie has specifically stated on these forums that there was no deal.

Maybe she was lying, but if she was, I'd lay good odds that Annie & Phil & their backers* (and maybe Howard) are the only ones who'd know about it. And you're obviously not Annie, Phil, Howard, or a backer, or you'd keep your mouth shut about it as well.

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*I don't know about Phil, but Annie said she sold 40% of herself.

freekobe · #14 02-07-2005, 07:24 PM

I will not convince you and that's fine. I'm OK with that. If you don't think deals are getting made at these tables, and you believe in the intergrity of these players in adhering to their signed agreements, more power to you.

Clearly, I am not one of their backers, but to flat-out state that I don't know if there was a deal seems a bit presumptuous, no?

superleeds · #15 02-07-2005, 10:05 PM

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No I don't think so. Expecting us all on this site to believe you are privy to some inside imformation based on a few posts and and your handle, yes?

freekobe · #16 02-07-2005, 10:27 PM

Not saying you have to believe me, but to dismiss it outright may be a mistake, that's all. You shouldn't believe 99% of what you read on this site. But sometimes, things you read are true. That's all I'm saying. I couldn't care less if you "believe" me - I'm just saying deals happen.

You don't know me from Adam and you shouldn't be expected to believe me. I'm just providing an alternative point of view, one that I believe to be true. To dismiss it bc of how many posts I have or because of my name...well, that's your choice.

skoal2k4 · #17 02-07-2005, 10:29 PM

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Clearly, I am not one of their backers, but to flat-out state that I don't know if there was a deal seems a bit presumptuous, no?

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How do you know a deal was made? serious question... how did you hear about it?

Tevyee · #18 02-07-2005, 11:25 PM

Freekobe, you are just speculating now. I wholeheartedly agree that deals are always struck at the table between players. In the 2003 WSOP Finals, Moneymaker offered to split the money with Farha who refused (regretfully [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]). Phil Hellmuth doesn't care as much about the money as he does about being titled the champion.

freekobe · #19 02-07-2005, 11:56 PM

Obviously, this is not the kind of place to say where I heard this info, and I realize that this hurts my credibility. Like many of these types of things, you hear them through the grapevine. Of course, you don't have to believe me, and I certainly understand why you wouldn't believe/trust me. I just know that my grapevine is shorter and more authoritative than most.

Could I be wrong? Possibly. I think my information is accurate. To the one poster who cited Annie's presence on this site as the defining reason why there wasn't a deal struck....I ask this: what else is she going to say?

freekobe · #20 02-08-2005, 12:00 AM

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You think Phil Hellmuth would rather have 250,000 or be named champion of the made for TV Tournament of Champions? I don't think that's close. I have ZERO basis for saying that, but I think that even to those guys, 250k is a lot of money.