How would you, with your infinate poker wisdom, play my hand?

[stupidsucker]

I fold this preflop often, but not always.

After the play is made the action is not over.

[lorinda]

I'd river quads.

Edit: Also no mockery intended, the stacks are not deep enough to worry about the monsters, but rivering quads just in case is always good.

Lori

[lawpoker]

Just thought I'd share...for fun.

<font color="red">
Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 7s 7h (three of a kind, sevens).
MP2 has Kc Jc (one pair, jacks).
Button has As Ah (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Button wins t2790. </font> </font>

[lorinda]

Button has obviously read my posts before [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Lori

[The Yugoslavian]

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I fold pre-flop, and it's not even close.

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Yeah, I actually will fold this sometimes too so I guess my line isn't identical to Dali's. But, it is quite close I think due to the decent pot odds and huge implied odds of the action. If I read the table as quite passive then it looks playable. If I'm closing the action then I am much more likely to call but upon further review I think there are enough people who can still act to make me fold this a significant % of the time.

BTW, the guy with AA is a moron (who happened to win all of your chips).

Yugoslav

[Daliman]

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I fold pre-flop, and it's not even close.

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It should be. Work on that.

[lawpoker]

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Button has obviously read my posts before [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Lori

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Lori is absolutly correct. i should have at least turned quads, if not rivered them. i think it's always good to have a back up plan in place. an exit-strategy, so to speak. damn it! i will consult Lori before making any bets from this point forward. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

yugo...ya, i agree that he wasn't the best player in the game. and he managed to lose his over 3-1 chip lead in about 2 orbits. good times....good times.

[Daliman]

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A good rule is to call for up to 1/15th of your stack with a pair. You're paying slightly more than that here, but there are special circumstances that make this an easy call: (1) There are two raisers, which increases the chances someone will flop an overpair, or failing that TPTK with AK, when you flop a set, which means a better chance to bust someone (2) There are quite a few people in, which both increases your immediate pot odds and increases your chances of getting someone's stack when you flop a set.

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I personally 5% as a general guideline, but otherwise, ChirisV is spot on here, as he usually is.

[lawpoker]

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A good rule is to call for up to 1/15th of your stack with a pair. You're paying slightly more than that here, but there are special circumstances that make this an easy call: (1) There are two raisers, which increases the chances someone will flop an overpair, or failing that TPTK with AK, when you flop a set, which means a better chance to bust someone (2) There are quite a few people in, which both increases your immediate pot odds and increases your chances of getting someone's stack when you flop a set.

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I personally 5% as a general guideline, but otherwise, ChirisV is spot on here, as he usually is.

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thank you both for these posts. the insight (and guidlines) are greatly appreciated. i'm always learning...

[Irieguy]

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I fold pre-flop, and it's not even close.

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It should be. Work on that.

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No, this is one of those examples of a $219 player and an $11 player trying to have the same conversation.

In a low-limit SNG if you cold-call 2 raises from the small blind with a small pair in level 2, you do not understand low limit SNG strategy. You have to fold, and it's not close. Suited Sixes and Yugo are right.

The sport changes when you go to the $109's and above because you start to lose the tremendous overlay you have on the bubble at the smaller limits. You cannot jeopardize your chances to get to the bubble in a low limit SNG by always talking yourself into playing small pairs because of implied odds. You miss the flop a lot, and you go broke with small sets sometimes. If you don't make it to the bubble in a $33 SNG or below, you better be passing up that juicy opportunity for a very good reason. Not because you went broke with pocket 7's.

Now, Daliman, in a $219 SNG I would call from the BB with pocket 7's even if the button showed me his aces (as long as he couldn't see my 7's). The implied odds for that hand are well worth the 60 chips, and missing that opportunity is less likely to be overcome by your late stage overlay. At the higher limits you need an overlay at every stage to win consistently.

The mistake that low limit players make is failing to recognize the weighted difference between decisions in level 1 and decisions in level 5. If your opponent is twice as bad as you are, his mistakes at level 5 are 25 times more significant than his mistakes at level 1. At the higher limits you are unlikely to find yourself on the bubble in a situation where you are twice a skilled as everybody else. So the marginal difference in skill multiplied by the higher blinds does not adequately compensate for a missed opportunity to double through somebody early.

Pushing marginal edges early and seeking out opportunities to acquire chips at every level is a great way to earn a 12% ROI. The problem is that at the $11's you can earn a 40% ROI if you understand what you are up against.

Irieguy