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Old 01-31-2005, 08:06 PM
wacki wacki is offline
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Default The amount of knowledge/wisdom in this thread amazes me.

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You realise what a rise in 88cm would mean dont you?

Im assuming you dont because you use the word "only".

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Ding!

Also, it's pretty obvious that almost all of the posters in this thread are almost completely ignorant about Global Warming. Inchoate hand is correct in saying "Climate Change" is the preferred term. Some still use global warming, but the term seems to confuse the average mind. It's pretty sad that so many people are still this ignorant. Especially since not one paper in Science magazine (a peer review journal) within the last 10 years says it isn't happening.
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Old 01-31-2005, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: The amount of knowledge/wisdom in this thread amazes me.

For wacki:
Your zeal is understandable but a little tiresome.

Here's another interesting take on climate change and public policy.

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?pt=PH%2...A4hsV3oh%3D%3D


"Faced with the inescapable momentum of these socioeconomic trends as we clean up from the South Asian disaster, the crucial question is this: What can be done to better prepare the world--especially the developing world--for future disasters? It is absurd to suggest that reducing greenhouse gas emissions is an important part of the answer.

The chief reason is that the role of demographics in making a country vulnerable to disaster overwhelms that of a warming atmosphere. Indeed, the most recent assessment of the scientifically authoritative Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (ipcc) found no evidence to support the idea that human-caused climate change has discernibly influenced the rapidly increasing disaster toll of recent decades. While ipcc data and predictions indicate that human-caused climate change may have an effect on future disasters, our analysis of hurricanes and tropical cyclones, using ipcc data and assumptions, shows that, for every $1 of additional disaster damage scientists expect will be caused by the effects of global warming by 2050, an additional $22 to $60 of damages will result from the growth of economies and populations. Other studies of hurricanes, flooding, and heat waves lead to a similar conclusion: Socioeconomic trends, not climate change, will continue to drive increasing disaster losses.

The example of rising sea levels provides further illustration. Scientists expect that, by 2050, average global sea levels will rise by two to twelve inches. But no research suggests that the Kyoto Protocol, or even more ambitious emissions-reduction proposals, would significantly reduce this increase. Meanwhile, coastal populations will continue to grow by hundreds of millions, mostly in developing countries. Bangladesh alone, which suffered about 140,000 deaths from a cyclone in 1991, may add up to 100 million people to its population by 2050. The world will indeed be more vulnerable to tsunamis in the future, but, once again, the causes are primarily socioeconomic change, not climate change.

Yet assertions that global warming is directly linked to rising disaster losses persist. Such assertions may have short-term political benefits in the global warming debate, but they detract from serious efforts to prepare for disasters. Global climate change has been a potent focusing lens for environmental groups, governments, the scientific research establishment, and international bodies, especially the United Nations. The U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change--and its Kyoto Protocol mandating emissions reductions--occupies thousands of advocates, diplomats, scientists, lawyers, and journalists. The climate change policy agenda has also sucked into its maw a wide range of other issues, such as energy policy, water policy, public health and infectious diseases, deforestation, and, of course, disasters. Climate change thus captures a huge proportion of the public attention, political energy, and financial and intellectual resources available for addressing global environmental challenges--including disaster preparedness. "
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Old 01-31-2005, 10:38 PM
wacki wacki is offline
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Default Re: The amount of knowledge/wisdom in this thread amazes me.

Next time you post an article, please make sure the guy that is writing it knows what he is talking about. I don't know of one scientist that says Global Warming is going to be at disaster levels by 2050. It's 2050-2100 when projections say life is going to become very rough. And most published projections are at 2100. Then again most of us will be be dead, or on our death beds by then, so who cares. Let our kids and grandkids deal with it.

Holy cow, talk about selective reading/writing.
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Old 01-31-2005, 10:46 PM
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Default Re: It\'s So Cold Because of Global Warming

Anyone who makes a comment about global warming based on the weather of the past week should automatically be ignored. It's just as bad as the people who post in small stakes about their 10bb/100 win rate after 1,000 hands.
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