Poker will never peak

[Uglyowl]

Great... now I have to feel bad about stealing food off of a single mom's babies plate.

[liquidboss]

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the biggest untapped market is the chinese though.

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I have always thought it strange that there aren't more Asian players online. They are all over the casinos playing live poker and generally play a lot of video games, it seems like there would be more. I agree it is an untapped market and we'll see more and more in the future.

[Synergistic Explosions]

Is hold-em popular in China? I always thought they preferred games like Pai Gow.

What about other Asian contries, like Viet Nam? Seems like when I watch TV tournaments there's always a couple players who were born in Viet Nam. Plus why do half these Vietnamese players have the same name, Nguyen? I look through tournament results and I see that name everywhere. I even saw a Barron Von Nguyen once.

[Player12345]

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the biggest untapped market is the chinese though.

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I have always thought it strange that there aren't more Asian players online. They are all over the casinos playing live poker and generally play a lot of video games, it seems like there would be more. I agree it is an untapped market and we'll see more and more in the future.

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this concept, in essence, is why the cigarette makers agreed to the settlements. the markets that are developing in this new global economy are presenting customer bases that will more than make up for lost revenue.

as an example, for every american that stops smoking, there are 5 teenagers in developing countries that are being directly marketed to and will start smoking.

this is why the party poker ipo/float will probably get top dollar. there will be very little discounting due to risk because of the untapped markets.

[Player12345]

vietnamese players are probably the biggest money winners on the tourney circut by nationality. with the chinese, there has been very little gambling allowed and is actually a capital crime in many places. however, the government has stopped caring about the core issues of communism in the past 5 years and they are not going to raise a stink when the newly affluent use their new internet connections to play poker. asians have a reputation for being gamblers, but the chinese are just beginning to join the ranks of these gambling asians. when the chinese population can easily get unrestricted internet connections and some sort of funding method for them is set in place by the poker sites, the growth will be huge. but if you see a 100-200 table at pokerstars in 1 year from now that has 9 players from bejing, i would not join as the 10th.

[AncientPC]

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Is hold-em popular in China? I always thought they preferred games like Pai Gow.

What about other Asian contries, like Viet Nam? Seems like when I watch TV tournaments there's always a couple players who were born in Viet Nam. Plus why do half these Vietnamese players have the same name, Nguyen? I look through tournament results and I see that name everywhere. I even saw a Barron Von Nguyen once.

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Chinese usually play Bridge or Big 2. Nguyen is a common last name, like Chen / Lee for Chinese or Thompson for American names.

[lefty rosen]

For China to send a significant amount of new players to the game their incomes will have to grow ten times to what it is now. Also knowledge of English or at least some European language will be necesarry. The thought that a city worker who earns 1000 US a year can afford any form of western poker is a joke....... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[David04]

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but if you see a 100-200 table at pokerstars in 1 year from now that has 9 players from bejing, i would not join as the 10th.

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Doesn't a full ring game at PS seat 9 people?

[lefty rosen]

The games were tougher at lower stakes, but the games are also getting more rockish all the time. Just look at Pacific Poker their low limit games were as birdy as Party .5/1. Now they are more weak tight than all out lunatic loose.....

[Voltron87]

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i'm not saying it to be racist. i am saying it because there will be little or no oversight and there will be a new breed of capitalists that will try and beat the system. it is no different than the notion that the new russia is full of mobsters. chinese players from small towns and provinces will see this as an opportunity and the local mood will be one of complicity not discouragement.

as developing countries develop, or communist countries turn socialist or democratic, there is a natural step back to a wild west mentality. this mentality will result in this new group of players trying to do things the scam way versus the traditional and proper way of learning the game through education as the way to beat it.

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You're statements about Chinese players being predisposed to cheating isn't racist?