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Old 01-27-2005, 04:58 PM
Shajen Shajen is offline
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Default Re: Basketball fans- should this have been traveling?

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He's not actually pivoting. He's wiping his feet.

If he had moved from his location, then that would traveling. But in this instance it is not.

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You couldn't be more wrong. It is traveling. If he wanted to wipe his feet he should have done it before the tip or after he started dribbling.

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Actually I could be plenty more wrong.

For example, if I had see it wasn't traveling, but it was instead "Bussing", then I'd be more wrong.

I think I'm right and that's all that matters. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Apparently the refs thought the same way.
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Old 01-27-2005, 05:04 PM
Patrick del Poker Grande Patrick del Poker Grande is offline
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Default Re: Basketball fans- should this have been traveling?

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He's not actually pivoting. He's wiping his feet.

If he had moved from his location, then that would traveling. But in this instance it is not.

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You couldn't be more wrong. It is traveling. If he wanted to wipe his feet he should have done it before the tip or after he started dribbling.

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Actually I could be plenty more wrong.

For example, if I had see it wasn't traveling, but it was instead "Bussing", then I'd be more wrong.

I think I'm right and that's all that matters. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Apparently the refs thought the same way.

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You're an apologist for bad refs and travelers and that's all there is to it.
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Old 01-27-2005, 05:05 PM
Aces McGee Aces McGee is offline
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Default Re: Basketball fans- should this have been traveling?

Once he picks up one foot, the other one is established as a pivot foot (even if he doesn't do any actual pivoting). When he puts the first foot back down and then picks up his pivot foot, he's now switched pivot feet. When you switch your pivot foot, it's traveling.

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Old 01-27-2005, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: Basketball fans- should this have been traveling?

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He's not actually pivoting. He's wiping his feet.

If he had moved from his location, then that would traveling. But in this instance it is not.

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You couldn't be more wrong. It is traveling. If he wanted to wipe his feet he should have done it before the tip or after he started dribbling.

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Actually I could be plenty more wrong.

For example, if I had see it wasn't traveling, but it was instead "Bussing", then I'd be more wrong.

I think I'm right and that's all that matters. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Apparently the refs thought the same way.

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Ok, you could be MORE wrong, but you aren't right. Just because the refs either missed it or ignored it, doesn't mean it's not traveling.
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Old 01-27-2005, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Basketball fans- should this have been traveling?

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Once he picks up one foot, the other one is established as a pivot foot (even if he doesn't do any actual pivoting). When he puts the first foot back down and then picks up his pivot foot, he's now switched pivot feet. When you switch your pivot foot, it's traveling.

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This is correct.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:11 PM
Shajen Shajen is offline
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Default Re: Basketball fans- should this have been traveling?

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You're an apologist for bad refs and travelers and that's all there is to it.

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Hey now, settle down Patrick. Don't stoop to insults in this highly intellectual debate.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:16 PM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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Default Re: Basketball fans- should this have been traveling?

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Once he picks up one foot, the other one is established as a pivot foot (even if he doesn't do any actual pivoting). When he puts the first foot back down and then picks up his pivot foot, he's now switched pivot feet. When you switch your pivot foot, it's traveling.

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This is correct.

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Yeah but still, it would have been a totally anal call.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Basketball fans- should this have been traveling?

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D) it obviously didn't affect play at all, so the ref just let it go

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Old 01-27-2005, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: Basketball fans- should this have been traveling?

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Once he picks up one foot, the other one is established as a pivot foot (even if he doesn't do any actual pivoting). When he puts the first foot back down and then picks up his pivot foot, he's now switched pivot feet. When you switch your pivot foot, it's traveling.

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This is correct.

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Yeah but still, it would have been a totally anal call.

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I personally would have made the call. It's a possesion! Every possesion is important. If this happened at the end of the game when it was tied with 10 seconds left the call gets made, it shouldn't be any diferent at the beginning of the game.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: Basketball fans- should this have been traveling?

You seem to be confused. The rules against travelling in basketball have been eliminated from the rulebook. It's easy to verify this for yourself -- just watch a game on TV. Dribbling is very optional, and most players prefer not to do it.
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