TRUE OR FALSE ?

[ChrisV]

Definitely false. Avoiding coinflips is just a guideline of playing SNGs. Having all your allins at the end successfully steal the blinds is what we pros technically refer to as "running good". If called, it's usually a coinflip or worse.

[rachelwxm]

It's hard to avoid coin flips in late stages but I want to stick my chips in first. Like if you reraise push with AQ get called by min raiser 55 or some small pairs. The folding equity alone is enough to give you the edge.

[spentrent]

This can only be true if you are VERY LUCKY.

Think about it... this means that you'd have won almost every pot you played. Also, you were never challenged whenever you took a stab (such as being first to act holding AK on a rag flop).

Late in the game, you simply CANNOT sit around waiting for AA|KK|QQ, which are the only hands that can keep you out of a race.

[sofere]

In this situation, are you really a coinflip in the absolute sense of the word?

Yes, if you are called, its around 50/50. But say 60% of the time you push this, the other guy will fold, 15% of the time you'll be a coinflip, and 10% of the time you'll be dominated and 5% you'll be dominating(Just guesstimated #s), then will lose only 17.5% of the time (assuming u win all the times you're dominating and lose all the times you're dominated).

Thus should pushing that really be considered a "coinflip" even if you are called?

[rachelwxm]

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In this situation, are you really a coinflip in the absolute sense of the word?

Yes, if you are called, its around 50/50. But say 60% of the time you push this, the other guy will fold, 15% of the time you'll be a coinflip, and 10% of the time you'll be dominated and 5% you'll be dominating(Just guesstimated #s), then will lose only 17.5% of the time (assuming u win all the times you're dominating and lose all the times you're dominated).

Thus should pushing that really be considered a "coinflip" even if you are called?

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Yes, you elaborate my point a little more. If I stick my chips in first and there is decent FE, that's technically not a coinflip. Or even you call a short stack push with AK hope you either see a pp or AQ and actually he shows pp. These are not really "coin flips". So the original question is a little bit vauge. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
You cannot expect to dominate your opponent evertime you go all in.

[stillnotking]

No way. In fact, I doubt it is possible to win SNGs consistently without putting more than your "fair share" of bad beats on other players (this usually means winning with a dominated hand on the bubble). Correct SNG play necessitates stealing the blinds, which means you will sometimes be called by hands that make you a 3:1 dog or worse.

[jedi]

Unless the levels are 30 minutes long or higher, the blinds go up too fast for you to do well consistently without getting into coin fliip situations and winning them.

[morgan180]

This is a great point, so even though you wind up in a lot of race situations near/at the bubble it is due primarily to stealing by utilizing the FE of your stack by getting it all in PF. By pushing you reduce race situations by increasing the % opponents fold.

[MrMon]

How about a general rule: Avoid them early, create them late.

[slickterp]

now THAT i like. i guess i have always thought this way but never thought about it enought o put words to it. but i agree, you avoid them early, and then make other people try and avoid them later.