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Old 01-24-2005, 11:48 PM
andyfox andyfox is offline
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Wow, I hate to agree with this poster, but his point is a valid one: your question doesn't matter if abortion is murder. We make whatever political or social arrangements we need to. What would the answer have been to Hitler if he had asked: "What do we do with all those extra Jews if we don't exterminate them?" The answer is that a human life is not "extra."
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:52 PM
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You are reading too much much into my question. I am not saying anything about whether abortion is right or wrong. I am simply asking about how we deal with the consequences if abortion is outlawed. I believe that is a legitimate question.
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:55 PM
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What are the "consequences".....

1) reduced need for immigration to prop up our 1st world demographics problem??

2) Young women taken time of work or university to have-raise a child(OK legitimate)

3) Younger median age for child rearers..(Id say this is a positive)

4) Less 1-2 child families and more 3-4 child ones(also probably a positive)

Got anything else in mind.....
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Old 01-25-2005, 12:41 AM
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We'll have 301,000,000 people or 302,000,000 instead of 300,000,000. Or whatever. I don't see it as a problem. Problems attributed to overpopulation or "suplus" people are usually political problems.
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Old 01-25-2005, 01:21 AM
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Respectfully, your analysis is a faulty one. It is not an overpopulation issue. The issue is what do you do with a million young mothers with limited financial and emotional support needed to raise their child.
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Old 01-25-2005, 01:56 AM
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Respectfully, your analysis is a faulty one. It is not an overpopulation issue. The issue is what do you do with a million young mothers with limited financial and emotional support needed to raise their child.


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Tell them:

1.They are idiots for getting pregnant in the first place
2.They should give the baby up for adoption
3.Stop getting pregnant if you dont want a [censored] baby!!!
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Old 01-25-2005, 02:08 AM
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EVERY SINGLE HEALTHY WHITE BABY BORN IN THE U.S. WOULD BE ADOPTED.

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So what do we do wiht the unhealthy and non-white babies?
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Old 01-25-2005, 02:12 AM
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So you are willing to outlaw abortions on healthy white ones.....

There goes most abortions. Wow, who knew it be that easy.
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Old 01-25-2005, 03:53 AM
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Hey, Utah, very good question.

The problem is those young mothers, but it's also the back-alley abortions that can be a significant health risk. People are going to get abortions no matter what. If we agree that abortion is a major bummer, the best question to ask is how we can keep them to a minimum, and keep more people safe when they occur. I think education and the availability of birth control do a lot more to prevent it.

I hear that some health plans cover Viagra and not birth control. That more or less epitomizes the problem right there. The more I look at the abortion issue, the more I think society's view of women is a major impediment to preventing unwanted pregnancies.

BTW, zaxx is right, there might be unwanted pregnancies, but the white babies will be adopted. Others, not so much, and I see the consequences of that disparity at my job every day.

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Old 01-25-2005, 04:42 AM
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The issue is what do you do with a million young mothers with limited financial and emotional support needed to raise their child.

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I assume that this is not a total number? Obviously, some mothers to be that have abortions do have the financial and emotional wherewithal to raise a child but choose not to. What proportion of the ‘abortion total’ do they represent?

And who makes the call as to the 'line' needed of financial and emotional support - the woman alone, family and friends, the State, through social agencies or services etc, or private organizations, that usually have some attendant political and/or religious agenda or slant (obviously some state services can be accused of bias also) etc.

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