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edtost · #11 01-21-2005, 03:00 AM

in my nl days, it was said that if you got involved in a set-over-set and didn't lose/win a huge pot, you played it wrong. is the thinking in limit that different?

Entity · #12 01-21-2005, 03:00 AM

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do i fear aa here enough to make it a good fold?

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Do you? Apparently.

Do I? No. Jesus. Whether the results would've vindicated you or not, I think this is one of the worst folds I've seen in a long time.

Rob

Chairman Wood · #13 01-21-2005, 03:00 AM

Because its not true. This situation is obviously not one of them but absolutes like that are just a bad way to think about poker.

Entity · #14 01-21-2005, 03:00 AM

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in my nl days, it was said that if you got involved in a set-over-set and didn't lose/win a huge pot, you played it wrong. is the thinking in limit that different?

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That's the exact same thing I've heard about limit.

Rob

Chairman Wood · #15 01-21-2005, 03:01 AM

I would say the exact same thing for limit. But you need to be sure someone "TELLS" you they have a set first. i.e. you would lose a lot of money beforehand.

Entity · #16 01-21-2005, 03:02 AM

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Because its not true. This situation is obviously not one of them but absolutes like that are just a bad way to think about poker.

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How about this?

If you were to never fear set over set, you wouldn't be making a huge mistake.

That's closer to the truth. Yeah, there are some situations where it's staring you in the face, and you've just got to accept it. But the X% of the time you're wrong is enough such that if you were to worry yourself into folding on the flop in a huge pot, you'd be making MORE of a mistake, in general, by worrying than not worrying.

It's just less words to say don't worry about it.

Rob

Chairman Wood · #17 01-21-2005, 03:04 AM

Like I said previously make sure someone "Tells" you they have a set greater than yours. Often times for me this means flop cap, turn cap...., not flop raise and fold. Even when those situations happen I still call down.

MattC · #18 01-21-2005, 03:05 AM

ok thanks for your comments guys, in actuality the 4 of diamonds and the king of hearts i switched around, in the real hand the king came on the turn and the 4 of d on the flop. its just the hand brought up this idea to my head, so i decided to change to hand to see what other people would have to say about it.

Chairman Wood · #19 01-21-2005, 03:05 AM

Much better

GrunchCan · #20 01-21-2005, 03:07 AM

And even if they did tell you they had a set, X% of the time they are lying. Harrington says X >= 10%, and I think that's right.

One difference between Limit & NL is that in NL when someone gets a set, typically someone gets all-in quick. In Limit, you have more opportunities to out-think yourself, and make a colossal mistake, like folding KKK.