Hand to Talk About

[shaundeeb]

Or maybe he was beaten by one of the very few hands that do beat him and hes going to bash us all for saying to river raise. Since raise the river is such an obvious response I'm sure theres a lesson hes trying to teach us all. But, I presume anyreason he thinks he may behind is from a tell or from how the player plays that he isn't telling us. Because, based solely on the cards you have to presume you are ahead.

[TStoneMBD]

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I want to raise the river, but I feel like by saying that I'm stepping into a trap.

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That was my first instinct too. Guess we'll see how this pans out.

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[The Dude]

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Or maybe he was beaten by one of the very few hands that do beat him...

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Have you ever read one of Mason's "Hand to talk about" threads before?

[shaundeeb]

No, I guess this is me losing my virginity and all things that are common in other posts don't apply.

[mike l.]

mason not raising the river is atrocious. the rest of the hand is perfect. you will get shown AQ and other worse aces (as well as Js and other pairs that wont let go for one more bet) plenty enough to make a raise on the river (and call a 3 bet) significantly +EV. it's black and white and there's no way around it barring some sort of extra special player details on the bb that might make it closer to reasonable.

the only way i can explain your mistake here is maybe you are out of touch with how loose people's river calling standards have become in today's games, even some players who seem quite reasonable, and at limits as high as 200-400. my experience says reasonably big error not raising on the river. it'll be interesting to see what snakehead says because he's the one who really knows.

[mike l.]

"anyreason he thinks he may behind is from a tell"

hi. welcome to the forum.

mason doesnt do "tells".

enjoy.

[The Dude]

Mason also doesn't post hands that he loses.

Welcome to the forum.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

hi mason, as almost everybody else had stated, why no river raise?

your hand should be worth 2 bets on this river. sure, a bluff won't call, and maybe he'll fold a pair, but the pot will be big enough where he'll sometimes call a jack or QQ or whatever and he'll never ever fold an A here.

or maybe you just want to see his hand so you can have an idea of his play in later hands? sounds plausible, but like stated before, he'll call often enough anyways for you to see and even if he folds you'll know he probably had some type of pair.

[Danenania]

Hi Mason:

Sure this is the right line against some players but there isn't a lot for us to discuss without a read.

[pindawg]

If the BB was going to trap you I tihnk he would have gone for a Checkraise, that being said, not too many hands beat yours, I would have raised the river.