JTs Turns Top Two

[ecooke]

Hero has Td Jd (two pair, jacks and tens).
MP1 has 4c 6c (two pair, sixes and fours).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.50 BB

Thanks for your comments. I agree that capping the Turn against a LP-P is probably not the way to go, but he really threw me off when he checked the river through. That play was out of character for what the villain had shown up to that point. Similarly, someone made the case that when the villain flopped 2 two pair he stopped paying attention to the action (i.e. Turn c/r) and went on auto ram and jam. Looks consistent with MP1's play (i.e. consecutive 3-betting).

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Hero has Td Jd (two pair, jacks and tens).
MP1 has 4c 6c (two pair, sixes and fours).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.50 BB

Thanks for your comments. I agree that capping the Turn against a LP-P is probably not the way to go, but he really threw me off when he checked the river through. That play was out of character for what the villain had shown up to that point. Similarly, someone made the case that when the villain flopped 2 two pair he stopped paying attention to the action (i.e. Turn c/r) and went on auto ram and jam. Looks consistent with MP1's play (i.e. consecutive 3-betting).

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I think you played it fine. Overall I think capping the turn against LPP's is -EV, but I might re-evaluate your read on this guy for the future. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[ecooke]

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but I might re-evaluate your read on this guy for the future.

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Good Point - I'll do that.
Happy New Year All!

[ecooke]

In retrospect it would have earned me another bet. But as we all know hindsight is 20/20.
So after a LP-P player three bets a Turn c/r tell me the logic for leading the River please.

[tolbiny]

enough of a scare card hit ts slow down his betting on the river. If the player really is loose passive/passive, then it is likley that he will not raise the river (as he wouldn't pump the draw on the turn, and wont often raise without the nuts on the river) and you end up paying the same 1 bet when behind, but collecting that same bet when ahead when he would have checked behind with smaller 2 pair.

[MVicuna]

Hi,

I've seen LPP turn into maniacs with AA/KK, dont expect reasoned play out of LPP. Cap the turn, bet the river if they raise the river then I just call with top two.

Thanks,
MarkV.