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Old 12-29-2004, 11:33 AM
jakethebake jakethebake is offline
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"You will not be paid if this is on your days(s) off. It promises to be a rewarding opportunity to learn more about the operation of our airline and come face to face with our customers."

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Gag. I wonder how much the person who wrote that is making a year.

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Yea that's pretty stupid.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:35 AM
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I sort of agreed with you up until that last assinine statement. What they need to realize is that working for free for a couple of days IS helping themselves. Unless they prefer the airline go tits up and they all end up on the street, not to mention get pennies on the dollar for their pension benefits.

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That's funny. You state you sort of agreed with me up to a point, then you go ahead and rehash my point.

I see your problem with the last statement however. What I really meant is that in light of the previous statement, you have to focus on the big picture, not the narrow, immediate situation. Sometimes the big picture involves you conferring a "benefit" in the short run to someone else, but you have an expectation of some other benefit down the road.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:38 AM
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Salaried professionals are a different story entirely than non-exempt workers.

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Of course they are. But, in this one instance, it was basically the same thing.

Almost all salaried professionals that I know of have a bonus program. Therefore, in theory, overtime is not for free. In my case, I could have shined everyone on and gone home after business hours, especially since I knew these hours would not accrue any sort of yearly or monthly bonus. After all, the paralegals could have done what I volunteered to do.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:41 AM
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Then you have to think about this little thing called "natural selection". If a business isn't making money, should it survive?

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Interesting question. You need to ask yourself why the government subsidizes "necessary" industries to keep them afloat.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:43 AM
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"You will not be paid if this is on your days(s) off. It promises to be a rewarding opportunity to learn more about the operation of our airline and come face to face with our customers."

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Wow! I think US Airways employees should be paying for the privilege of working there!
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:46 AM
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Almost all salaried professionals that I know of have a bonus program

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Really? Many bonus programs are given across the board as a % of salary to both exempt and non-exempt employees. Middle to upper management bonuses are often based on merit, but there are many exempt positions that are not in that level of management.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:49 AM
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Interesting question. You need to ask yourself why the government subsidizes "necessary" industries to keep them afloat.

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You raise another good question.

Then you need to realize subsidizing a necessary industry is different then subsidizing an individual failing business.

FYI: My opinion isn't formed yet. Just thinking out loud....
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:49 AM
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Unless they prefer the airline go tits up and they all end up on the street, not to mention get pennies on the dollar for their pension benefits.

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"Bankrupt airline tries to slash costs, seeks non-union volunteers for New Year's weekend."

Do non-union workers get these benefits?
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Old 12-29-2004, 12:04 PM
rusty JEDI rusty JEDI is offline
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I would hope that the airline offers all people who come in and work without pay some free tickets on any flight with an empty seat anywhere in the world. The seats arent being used anyway.

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Old 12-29-2004, 12:17 PM
jakethebake jakethebake is offline
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Then you need to realize subsidizing a necessary industry is different then subsidizing an individual failing business.

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If it's necessary why does it need subsidies?
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