Are you NUTS!

[MoDOH]

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He's not betting the river without a diamond and people don't like folding. Do you see where I'm going?

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what about all the times he doesn´t have a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in his hand? Granted PP fish don´t like to fold but this board is one where they will lay down their hands when shown aggression...

[Evan]

If he folds to your turn raise you very likely didn't lose any bets. I don't think a non dimanond (excpet maybe a set) is calling a river bet.

[MoDOH]

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You can't c/r in position.

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You can´t? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Also, I don't think he's calling without a flush often enough to miss out on a big bet with a turn raise.

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I haven´t shown any strength so far in this hand. So I think there is a high chance they will call if they have any piece of this board...

[Evan]

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I haven´t shown any strength so far in this hand. So I think there is a high chance they will call if they have any piece of this board...

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Okay. We have different opinions here. I'll stand by what I said. If you think he's more likely to put money in on the river w/o the flush and not the turn then I can't really argue any further.

[MoDOH]

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I don't think a non dimanond (excpet maybe a set) is calling a river bet.

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You´re kidding right? Perhaps YOU wouldn´t call a river bet without at least a set, but the party fish sure will.
First you say that PP fish don´t like to fold hands and then you say that they wouldn´t call a single river bet from someone who hasn´t done anything but call all way?
doesn´t make sense to me...

[Evan]

Meh, okay. That was stupid.

Raise the turn though. I'm sticking with that.