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Old 12-22-2004, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: a flop check after capping and flopping and all that.

Seriously, 1.5 AF is not high. I just looked at mine and its 2.93 (I have no idea if that's good, bad or awful...but I know its higher).

This isn't an apple to apples comparison cause this guy plays half his hands. He may be more aggressive than you postflop (i.e. bet/raise more), but because he is in so many pots he also calls more, meaning he could be more aggresssive and have a lower AF than you. AF is a ratio between bet/raise and calling, not a singular measure of bet-raise.

Generally speaking, a 1.5 AF for someone playing half there hands means either they are pretty aggressive postflop (because you kno they call alot, so they must bet-raise more for the number to be over 1) or are weak tight (i.e. they fold a lot on the flop, which minimizes there calling number). WTSD (even better folds flop and folds turn stats) and VPIP need to be known to provide the context to gain something meaningful from AF stats.
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Old 12-22-2004, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: a flop check after capping and flopping and all that.

Give StellarWind some love for leaving SS

This gets into the problems with the Aggression Factor stat.
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Old 12-22-2004, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: a flop check after capping and flopping and all that.

bison,

You have a very good, but not invincible hand, in a 9BB pot. I would bet, and give the LAG a chance to raise, and/or give the others a chance to chase with their weak draws or fold. I can't see how betting here could be wrong, whereas I could see plenty wrong if it gets checked through.
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Old 12-22-2004, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: a flop check after capping and flopping and all that.

cheesepain i agree, btw who is that picture of??
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Old 12-22-2004, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: a flop check after capping and flopping and all that.

So you're saying it's one of those "twelve of one, half a dozen of the other" type things?

Cause I think I agree. This worked in that I got to checkraise, but I think I'll save it for known postflop maniacs. Besides, I might have been able to 3-bet the flop.
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Old 12-22-2004, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: a flop check after capping and flopping and all that.

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cheesepain i agree, btw who is that picture of??

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The man in the picture would certainly have something to say about the way you mangled my name.
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Old 12-22-2004, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: a flop check after capping and flopping and all that.

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P.S. Are you trying to quit capital letters? If so good luck. I've tried and it's tough. Read e.e. cummings for inspiration.

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Old 12-22-2004, 10:10 PM
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CO is a known lagball. I've already got 150 hands with him when he sits down a couple of orbits before this hand. He plays half his hands, raises 1/5th of them. His postflop aggression number is 1.5.

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So why not make the play you are expected to and hope he raise ?
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Old 12-22-2004, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: a flop check after capping and flopping and all that.

Lagball? heh. I like that.

Bet out on the flop so he can raise so you can 3 bet.

You might be able to c/r the turn. However, with him being the only 1 left behind to bet it, be careful in trying this.

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Old 12-22-2004, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: a flop check after capping and flopping and all that.

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cheesepain i agree, btw who is that picture of??

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The man in the picture would certainly have something to say about the way you mangled my name.

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Cheesepain..lol..
why not just call him cheeseball?
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