2+2 table tonight Wed 12/14 - Page 2

Entity · #11 12-15-2004, 02:06 AM

Nothing beats having a solid read on the players you're up against.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, Hero raises, MP1 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB folds, Hero bets, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 3.50 BB

JudoGirl · #12 12-15-2004, 02:09 AM

i hate this situation...not betting the turn invites a bluff (as does not betting the river)...any suggestions for improved play?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero raises, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB

Entity · #13 12-15-2004, 02:10 AM

Like I said.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, CO (Jaran) 3-bets, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, MP2 calls, Hero caps, CO (Jaran) calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, Jaran raises, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Jaran checks.

River: (8.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Jaran bets, Hero raises, Jaran folds.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

JudoGirl · #14 12-15-2004, 02:13 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Nothing beats having a solid read on the players you're up against.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, Hero raises, MP1 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB folds, Hero bets, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 3.50 BB

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nice...yes mattmcc7 playing all kinds of trash...

Entity · #15 12-15-2004, 02:15 AM

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Like I said.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, CO (Jaran) 3-bets, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, MP2 calls, Hero caps, CO (Jaran) calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, Jaran raises, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Jaran checks.

River: (8.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Jaran bets, Hero raises, Jaran folds.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

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My thoughts on this one:

When I raised and Jaran 3-bet (we're playing like TAGs for once), I knew he had a hand. TT-AA, AK. On the flop, his raise gave me some info about my hand, but I was more convinced that it was something like QQ going for a cheap showdown. When he checked the turn I was positive it was QQ/JJ (maybe TT or KK), and I thought there was a 30-40% chance he'd lay it down to a river checkraise.

I think my image was right to pull it off tonight. I dunno though. Anyone like?

Rob

Jaran · #16 12-15-2004, 02:22 AM

My read (since we are playing TAG) had you on AK or KK. I figured you for a c/r on the turn, and thus checked behind. I dunno, I guess I'll have to start the whole "well he thinks I have xx since I made this play, so if I do this he will react this way with xx, but he knows that, so I should do this..." when we play hu (I've got a headache just typing it). Nice play, btw (jerk [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] )

-Jaran

prayformojo · #17 12-15-2004, 02:25 AM

With your read telling you tight pre-flop 3-bet standards, why cap pre-flop? Were you intending a play this aggressive from the beginning?

Entity · #18 12-15-2004, 02:26 AM

Anyone object to my deception cap preflop?

uw_madtown · #19 12-15-2004, 02:28 AM

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Anyone object to my deception cap preflop?

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Better to cap it than fold it.

So when's a spot gonna open up for me on this table?

Entity · #20 12-15-2004, 02:29 AM

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With your read telling you tight pre-flop 3-bet standards, why cap pre-flop? Were you intending a play this aggressive from the beginning?

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Yes.

The cap was basically for deception and to help narrow my read on Jaran's potential hands (via his postflop play + the knowledge of him thinking I have AA-AK, KK, QQ). I'm not sure if it's +EV or not. Basically it was intending on moving Jaran off of a better hand or allowing me to walk away more easily from an all undercard flop.

Rob