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Old 12-10-2004, 11:40 AM
Ronald White Ronald White is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t something be Done?

I was hoping for a more constructive debate. I am not nigheve that my plan would work from day one, I know it would take some time to perfect it.

Look around this forum guys, do you think this is a place wehre pro's would like to come and post? I know there are a few like Paul Phillips, but look what happened to Annie Duke. You guys ran her off the site.

Fixing this up would be good for all of us.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:03 PM
jakethebake jakethebake is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t something be Done?

It's too bad we didn't initate his idea about not letting newbies start threads before he started this one. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:35 PM
rickthekeg rickthekeg is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t something be Done?

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Can't something be Done?

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Yes. If you see a post you don't like, click on the poster's name. At the bottom of his profile, click "Ignore this user."
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:52 PM
Woody09 Woody09 is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t something be Done?

"These poker playrs you slander all day are my heroes and heroes to my family."

Slander is spoken; Libel is written. Consequently anything on here would be libel. As those people are public figures and the matters are of a public concern the threshold to prove libel is constituional malice. In other words you have to be intentionally injuring these people's reputation and it is doubtful any court would recognized that.
Moreover, while you are worrying about the legal consequences of the 2+2 forums, maybe you should take a quick look at the 1st Amendment because your little censorship plan smacks of a freedom of speech/debate violation.
Hopefully this thread was a joke; if not I also recommend that you kill youself.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:59 PM
sleepyjoeyt sleepyjoeyt is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t something be Done?

I'd like to say that I agree with you in spirit. I also recognize that your proposal wouldn't work.

I come to this site to read some good poker information. I enjoy reading intelligent responses to poker questions, hearing the thought process of successful players, etc. Posts from people like Clarkmeister, Mike I, and all the others are entertaining for me, and I'm sure it helps me improve my own game. I don't like all the posts that have nothing to do with poker. I would also enjoy banning individuals who resort to personal insults about people's wives, etc.

And I don't want to hear any crap about free speech. I am very well versed in the laws regarding free speech. I am simply stating what my preference would be.

A different suggestion would be to start a new forum that was simply entitled "hand analysis", where the only threads allowed would be discussions of specific hands, why the poster played it a specific way, and responses as to whether or not it was the best decision and what other decisions should have been considered.

IF that were an option, I would strictly read that forum and the B + M forum (for trip reports, which are usually a good read). And I also recognize that this wouldn't work - someone would post a hand and zaxx or phixx or whoever the latest idiot is would comment that he sat next to X at a casino who smelled like dog [censored] and the whole post would go down the drain.

There is no real solution - hopefully the trolls just fade away.
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:08 PM
drewjustdrew drewjustdrew is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t something be Done?

I don't think this forum was set up with the intention of attracting celebrity players. They just showed up for a while.
If you want better posts, the TV forum is not the place for it. Lots of pros, not celebrities, post on other forums. Seek out your favorites and ignore the rest.

And it's spelled "naive"
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:04 PM
snowbank snowbank is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t something be Done?

"If you have less than 1,000 threads, you have to e-mail your proposed topic to me and I will let you know if you can go ahead and post it (if its a close call, I will forward it to Mat or Frank for the final word)."

haha. So if you have 3 posts or less you should be the new moderator? Good suggestion. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:16 PM
Superfluous Man Superfluous Man is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t something be Done?

Won't someone please think of the children?
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:45 PM
jakethebake jakethebake is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t something be Done?

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haha. So if you have 3 posts or less you should be the new moderator? Good suggestion. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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That was the funniest part of the whole post.
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:56 PM
Ronald White Ronald White is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t something be Done?

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"These poker playrs you slander all day are my heroes and heroes to my family."

Slander is spoken; Libel is written. Consequently anything on here would be libel. As those people are public figures and the matters are of a public concern the threshold to prove libel is constituional malice. In other words you have to be intentionally injuring these people's reputation and it is doubtful any court would recognized that.
Moreover, while you are worrying about the legal consequences of the 2+2 forums, maybe you should take a quick look at the 1st Amendment because your little censorship plan smacks of a freedom of speech/debate violation.
Hopefully this thread was a joke; if not I also recommend that you kill youself.

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Well, you seem to have that backwards, but its ok. I understand your point.

This is not a public forum, so freedom of speech rules do not apply. In fact, the speech is ratified by the hosts meaning Mason and Lyle could be in trouble.

Listen, my dad told me all this, so it may not make sense as I am typing it up from memory. If there are mistakes, I am sorry.

Also, my dad told me the pictures everyone is using may end up being a trademark violation by the site. You can't, say, have a magazine and just let people write in letters that have other people's logos and stuff. For example, allot of people use Simpson's pictures. And because this site is run for profit (or attempts to make a profit) they are using other people's stuff in a commercial way.

Mason and Lyle can find themselves in a big lawsuit. And not only that, my dad says it would be in Federal Court.

But that is not my concern. My concern is to stop the harrassment of the pro players, like Dan Neagranue. If I were him, I would be really mad if people were saying I was gay. In case you don't know, he posts on RPG (Recreation Poker Gambling) and maybe if we were nicer to him, he would post here.

Something to think about guys.
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