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Old 12-16-2004, 04:36 AM
Cyrus Cyrus is offline
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Default stress = f(variance)

And

Variance(NL) > Variance(L)
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Old 12-16-2004, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: stress = f(variance)

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Variance(NL) > Variance(L)

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I think you got it backward.
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Old 12-16-2004, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: no limit vs limit stress comparison

Hey man... What'd you think of the game there? I have relatives in Niagara Falls, Canada, and I'd like to maybe take a walk over the bridge one day.

You've got to understand that all we have in Ontario is LHE and a few tourneys, unless you're at a private game... so Seneca's a utopia for us.

I've noticed that in limit I get frustrated by a series of beats and sometimes in my play, if I pay someone more bets than I should. I find that I'm very very calm in a hand though. In NL play, my heart starts thumping if I look down and see good hole cards!

I do everything I can to control this... it sucks. I don't like it. I don't think it gets in the way of my game too much though.

What do you mean by "full kill" omaha 8?

I heard that the NL game at Seneca had 5-10 blinds! I didn't realize that there was a table that you could sit at with 1-2 blinds... is there a slightly higher blinds game where you can actually buy in for 2-300xbb?

I really really hate buying for 50xbb. Really. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 12-16-2004, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: no limit vs limit stress comparison

To give you an idea of what a bad NL hand is like:

Live game, NLHE, blinds $1/2, with stacks between $100 and -500 for a bunch of players. UTG I'm dealt JJ, bet $20, and get 5 callers, including the BB, not including the SB.

Flop: AJT rainbow. I bet $75, get one caller to my left.

There's 251 in the pot, and the turn is a K. I check, and the guy to my left goes all-in for $171 more. He rarely bluffs, especially in big pots.

Given the odds, I have to fold. There goes $95, as well as my chance at a $422 pot.

As bisonbison would say, "It happens."

Basically just understand that you're going to have A LOT of these hands, and if you lose your stack every now and then, it's okay; you're going to win other people's stacks too.
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Old 12-16-2004, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: no limit vs limit stress comparison

Hey DavidC,

I've played the NL games at Seneca a few times. They usually have two 1/2 tables and one 5/10. The 1/2 is $40 min and $100 max buyin. The 5/10 buyins vary (was $300 min $700 max when I played). Fairly soft games, and a nice poker room (non smoking).

By the way.. They're opening up poker rooms at both Casino Niagara, and the new Fallsview Casino in January. Rumor is they'll have NL tables..
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Old 12-16-2004, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: no limit vs limit stress comparison

I love NL, but I'm not particuarly good at it. Probably because my attention span is short so I don't spend the time out of the hand "doing my homework" (watching other players, looking for bet patterns, etc.).

So instead of cash NL games, I play Tournaments for fun. I get the NL rush with the built-in stop-loss. Surprisingly, I do pretty well, too. (My theory is that there are a lot more bad NL players than Limit players, because of the glamour factor).

For pure income, I multi-table limit. Not as fun, but I can use the profits to feed the NL jones.
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: no limit vs limit stress comparison

I gave the guys a shout and they said that they'd probably have it "in the new year". The person on the line wouldn't get any more specific than that, for obvious reasons: can't be behind schedule if you never release your schedule. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

However... none of the casinos in Ontario have safe deposit boxes... that kinda irks me.

It'd be pretty neat if they did have NL though. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks for the info on the tables... think they'll let us up the buy to say $300 or so for the 1/2 tables? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

It's too bad that these places (Seneca, Party Poker) don't want to let you buy in for too much.
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: no limit vs limit stress comparison

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For pure income, I multi-table limit. Not as fun, but I can use the profits to feed the NL jones.

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As long as you don't bogart my fish, it's a pleasure to have you aboard! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-19-2004, 08:07 AM
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Default Re: no limit vs limit stress comparison

i play live on a regular basis, and for a long time i was playing nl. i have recently converted to limit as my bankroll has sizably increased, and i have found that nl was far more stressful to me than limit is, even though i am risking more money at these higher limits. getting badbeated on a 2k pot is entirely emotionally draining to me, but getting badbeated at a 20/40 table just isnt the same thing. the swings are not as large. an arguement could be made that i am less stressed out at these higher limits because i am making far more per hour than i was at nl, and while this certainly has something to do with it, i dont feel its the reason entirely.
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Old 12-20-2004, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: stress = f(variance)

You are saying the variance in a Limit game is greater than in a No-Limit game?
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