Bellagio 5 Diamond Classic 2k NLHE - 3 Hands

[mntbikr15]

Hand 1- I push the flop if Im going to bet it.

Hand 1b- I play the same, and am laughing out loud at that whole situtation.

Hand 2- Seems here the only thing your going to get called by is something that beats u. I may consider flat calling and trying to get him to fire on the turn again if I was that sure of his holdings. Then again if ur right and call the flop he most likely checks the turn as there arent many draws u could be calling with. Was there a flush draw? If there was I missed it in the post. You also didnt mention what ur stack size was, other then that u were about equal.

All things considered I see maybe one way to get more money out of him if he actually does hold 99-QQ. Flat call the flop, check the turn(if he bets great but I think hell check behind), check river as well to see if he will take another stab at it.

Sry bout the bubble, that sucks.

[SossMan]

hand 1a: I would push the flop.

hand 1b: I love it

hand 2: what were your stacks? how much of a raise was it over his 7k bet? The shorter your stacks, the more I like that play. However, if you are raising to like 60k all in, then I really don't like it. If your stacks are in the 10k-25k range, then it's a good Moo-ve.

Isn't live play soooo much better??

[Chief911]

Ok. Update, and I really want opinions of hand 3. Except I'm going to turn it around. I wanted to post this hand from both sides, because I do not want people's opinions advice to be based on what they perceive my hand as being. But first, the results from hand 1a and 1b.

Hand 1A - I folded. The one thing I love about live. It allows you to make a much better read on where you really are. I was beaten. Horribly pot stuck? Yes. But beaten, absolutely. I talked to him later, he confirmed that he had KK, which I believe. I folded, and 2 hands later picked up AA in the BB. Got 4 way action, and quadripled through EP raised to 800, MP cold called, button reraised allin, the other two folded and I just had to stay ahead of JJ. I disagree that a push on the flop is the right move. What I do agree with is that I should definately have pushed preflop.

Hand 1b - He had QQ. I hit an ace on the flop, and he got to play 1 hand at his new table. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I want to repost hand 2. Please reread from this other point of view, and tell me what you think. I will not say if I posted the first time as hero, or villian. I want evaluation though.

Hero and Villian are the two big stacks at the table, and with 55ish people left are probably around 15th or 20th in chip stacks overall. Hero is in LP with AKo, and has a loose turned fairly tight table image, but I made good position raises when folded to me in LP. Folded to me with AKo. I have 30k in my stack, and villian in this hand is the only person who has me covered, with 33k. He has been fairly tight and shown down a couple monsters, including doubling through and busting a well known pro about 4 orbits earlier.

I raise to 2.75 the BB (blinds are 600/1200 +200 ante) to 3k. Big blind just calls. Flop is A73 rainbow, and the villian checks to me. I bet out roughly the pot at 7500. Villian goes into the tank, then reraises me all in.

Call or fold with my tournament life on the line. I have top pair top kicker.

[nolanfan34]

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I raise to 2.75 the BB (blinds are 600/1200 +200 ante) to 3k. Big blind just calls. Flop is A73 rainbow, and the villian checks to me. I bet out roughly the pot at 7500. Villian goes into the tank, then reraises me all in.

Call or fold with my tournament life on the line. I have top pair top kicker.

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I'm a little confused about what you're looking for, if you want a comparison of the two hands between what you posted earlier, or what.

In any case, I'll take a crack at this, even though I apparently know what the BB holds based on your previous post.

First, I think it's safe to rule out AA, KK and QQ for obvious reasons. BB probably would have reraised PF with those hands. I also wouldn't expect to see JJ-88, or 66-44 here, unless BB thinks he can move you off of a hand with an Ace in it. I just don't see BB putting most of his chips on the line with an Ace on the flop, unless he's sure that you don't have an ace.

I don't think BB would have 77 or 33 either, as it seems a player with a flopped set would more likely call your flop bet. Although on a drawless board like that, a flat check-call is a dead giveaway of hitting the flop hard, so I guess it's possible that the BB would go ahead and push here hoping you do have an Ace.

The hand I'd most expect BB to have here though is another AK. The line just seems to make some sense, and you said he'd only shown down monster hands so far really (he or you? This is confusing me).

With my tournament life on the line, I think I'd probably lean toward a call on a board like this.

[Chief911]

Zaxx,

Your sources are incorrect. I was very shortstacked towards the end. Folding into the money was not going to happen.

Soss,

Yes. Its awesome. That said, I still hate live limit poker. Hate it. Live tournament is all I expected it to be, and more. Now I just need lasik, or some good prescription sunglasses. I hated having to stare at a piece of felt on the board. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[wjmooner]

If villian is trapping with AA then so be it, hitting the ace killed you. If villian flopped a set with 77 or 33, then so be it.

I would put villian on another AK, but you also can't discount the possibility that he thinks you are making a position raise and representing the Ace, thus he might make the same move w/ AT-AQ.

I think you have to call here.

WJ

[Scooterdoo]

Hi, Nick. Actually I'm now home. It was great meeting you. Funny story how I met up with Nick. I read his post mentioning that he was heading out to the Bellagio event so I IM'd him, but didn't hear back. Fast forward to Sat. night. I'm waiting around for a satillite and meet Nick not knowing who he is. We talk and end up sitting next to each other in the satellite. I ask him if he ever visits twoplustwo and he tells me that he's there all the time. I ask for his handle and can't believe it when he tells me his online name. He actually did receive my email and wrote down my cell and was planning on calling me that night or the next day. He then proceeds to trap me when he's dealt AA and I have K9 and hit my K on the flop. Ha,ha. Actually it was fun.

Nick is a strong player. On Sunday's $2k event we sat at adjacent tables and kept abreast of each other's fortunes. One minute he's doing great and I'm on the ropes, the next minute I'm well above average and he's in trouble. About 8 hours in when we get to 6 tables our fortunes reverse and Nick is in deep trouble with only a few thousand of chips and I am comfortable with close to 30k (blinds around 300/600 I believe with an 50 ante). Anyway, I make a critical blunder which I'll post tomorrow in a new thread so you guys all learn what an idiot I am, and I get crippled. When I leave in around mid 60's place, I see poor Nick with what looks like less than 3-4k. I figure he has only a few hands more to last at most. When I see him at around 12am in the cash game room he tells me that he just busted out in 32nd place. I cannot believe he lasted that long. It must have taken some extremely strong playing. Good going, Nick!

* Nick, I ended up watching them get down from 15 or so to the final 9. It finally ended around 2:30am. The big guy with the loud mouth from your table made it to the final 9 in about 2-3 position. I couldn't believe the things he was saying. How did you put up with him for so long?

- Scot