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Old 12-03-2004, 10:44 AM
Potowame Potowame is offline
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Default Re: Folding the nuts!

thats what i was thinking, Fold no reason to call this to a freerolling flush. Even if he didnt have the freeroll flush, why risk it for 1.25 lol. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:51 AM
Skjonne Skjonne is offline
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Default Re: Folding the nuts!

Nice fold!

Your EV on a call here is +38c if he has a T (remember the rake!). The other two possibilities is that he is (semi-)bluffing and that he's free-rolling.

Let' say he's bluffing 10% of the time, having the str8 w/o flush draw 25% of the time (probably too high a number) and freerolling 65% of the time. I that situation your EV is actually -97c.

If he's a sane player and we know he's free-rolling, your EV is -$8.65!

Gr8 fold - wish I could do that
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: Folding the nuts!

or he could have only a flush draw, 2 pair, trips, ect. a hand with a 10 and a flush draw is kinda rare.
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Old 12-03-2004, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: Folding the nuts!

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or he could have only a flush draw, 2 pair, trips, ect. a hand with a 10 and a flush draw is kinda rare.

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Does any of that matter? You're throwing $46 into a pot you had $1.25 invested in.
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Old 12-03-2004, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Folding the nuts!

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or he could have only a flush draw, 2 pair, trips, ect. a hand with a 10 and a flush draw is kinda rare.

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BK, could he really be all-in into the 2.50 pot without a ten?

The flush draw in this case only has to be there about 5% of the time for calling to be -EV. Its rare, but not that rare IMO.
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Old 12-03-2004, 12:06 PM
Sephus Sephus is offline
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what if he's semi-bluffing with a flush draw (no 10)? Can we consider this to be a possibility equivalent to the % of times he has the flush draw and the ten (especially at the wild micro-limit games?

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he isn't. think about it, if he's semibluffing why is he betting an amount that only a ten will call?
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Old 12-03-2004, 01:06 PM
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or he could have only a flush draw, 2 pair, trips, ect. a hand with a 10 and a flush draw is kinda rare.

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BK, could he really be all-in into the 2.50 pot without a ten?


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depends how bad the play is. at a .25/.5 table, why not?
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