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Old 12-02-2004, 05:42 PM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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from that article:
Although many human rights groups consider incendiary bombs to be inhumane, international law does not prohibit their use against military forces. ..........

Reporters for CNN and the Sydney (Australia) Morning Herald were told by unnamed Marine officers that aircraft dropped napalm on the Iraqi position, which was adjacent to one of the Marines' main invasion routes.

Their reports were disputed by several Pentagon spokesmen who said no such bombs were used nor did the United States have any napalm weapons.

The Pentagon destroyed its stockpile of napalm canisters, which had been stored near Camp Pendleton at the Fallbrook Naval Weapons Station, in April 2001.

Yesterday military spokesmen described what they see as the distinction between the two types of incendiary bombs. They said mixture used in modern firebombs is a less harmful mixture than Vietnam War-era napalm.
"This additive has significantly less of an impact on the environment," wrote Marine spokesman Col. Michael Daily, in an e-mailed information sheet provided by the Pentagon.

He added, "many folks (out of habit) refer to the Mark 77 as 'napalm' because its effect upon the target is remarkably similar."


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Old 12-02-2004, 05:52 PM
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I'm not sure what your point is with that quote. You guys jumped all over the original poster for no good reason. The military has admitted to using Mark 77. Mark 77 is essentially the same thing as napalm. They just changed the name and they make it in a different way.

So there is nothing wrong with him saying that the US has used napalm.

Whether using napalm should be condemned is another matter.
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Old 12-02-2004, 05:54 PM
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I'm not sure what your point is with that quote. You guys jumped all over the original poster for no good reason. The military has admitted to using Mark 77. Mark 77 is essentially the same thing as napalm. They just changed the name and they make it in a different way.

So there is nothing wrong with him saying that the US has used napalm.

Whether using napalm should be condemned is another matter.

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It's not the same thing. They aren't using napalm. There's a reason they use Mark 77 and not napalm.
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Old 12-02-2004, 05:58 PM
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what you are doing is saying one thing is something else because they are similar. Is and F150 the same thing as a Ranger? They are both trucks, but not the same type of truck. The Mark 77 is a incidenary weapon. Napalm is an incidenary weapon, but they are not the same incidenary weapon.

BTW, I spelled that word wrong three times.
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Old 12-02-2004, 06:00 PM
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Please tell me what Mark 77 is designed to do. What was napalm designed to do?

I find it interesting that those in the military seem to use the term napalm to refer to Mark 77, but I guess you know better.

Please educate me.
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Old 12-02-2004, 07:13 PM
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Is and F150 the same thing as a Ranger? They are both trucks, but not the same type of truck. The Mark 77 is a incidenary weapon. Napalm is an incidenary weapon, but they are not the same incidenary weapon.

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But the important thing is not whether the two are identical but how similar their functions and effects are. Coke isn't Pepsi, but if I'm telling a story about spilling soda on my shirt, it doesn't really matter which one I spilled.

In this case, the point is that we are using these incendiary devices. The army says Mark 77 doesn't have such devastasting consquences for civilians and the general environment as napalm. None of us are likely to have personal knowledge of this, putting us all into the position of having to decide who to trust or who to give the benefit of the doubt to.

Personally, I have a hard time giving the benefit of the doubt regarding anything in Iraq to the government at this point.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:21 PM
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Napalm isn't banned because it is CALLED napalm. It is banned for what it does. Mark 77 does the same thing.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:30 PM
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except Mark 77 isn't banned. How is that possible then?
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Old 12-02-2004, 09:23 PM
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Mark 77 isn't banned because there isn't a picture of a naked Iraqi girl running from a burning village...yet.
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Old 12-02-2004, 09:30 PM
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just curious, why do you think Napalm is banned? because the UN says so?
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