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11-18-2004, 12:48 PM
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Re: The 2+2 equivalent of meeting women
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No one is selling anything. Indeed you are closed minded. [/ QUOTE ] Very much so but I know and understand that I am, and this is probably a key to what you do in life as well. I am someone who likes to stay "in the box" in other words I like to stay with what I know and feel comfortable and dont like to get out of the box and expose myself into potentially difficult situations outside of my comfort zone, I like to absorb and bring things into the box myself. Knowing who you are and how you learn and intearct with the world can help you with future study, confidance building etc etc . I think this is key in dealing with relationships and trying to pull, is to know who you are and how you react and then use applicable techniques (from that site or others) that suit you. Theres a book I think called How to Get what you want that is more a work/career type manual but also has a relationship type book as well that I and moreso my partner got a lot out of in understanding ourselves and what drives us. 
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11-18-2004, 12:52 PM
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agreed, if you just meet a girl it is OK to talk about what you will do next weekend. talking about 6 months from now is creepy. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, use the concept however it feels comfortable. The point is to be aware that it exists. Don't be a creep and talk about what it will be like when you are married.
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11-18-2004, 12:59 PM
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Re: The 2+2 equivalent of meeting women
Also, I don't think that is one of the hardcore fundamentals, just something I remembered of the top of my head.
Patterning would be much more important. This is basically mimicing the body language they are using, or tone of voice. Helps make things more comfortable. As far as fluff talk goes, they talk about something called Eliciting Values. Basically you find out what qualities they find important, or characterstics about themselves that they like and act as if you have the same qualities. "I love reading" "Me too, I've read this and this, I loved this" Even if you hate reading, you surely have read something you can talk about. This is much better than replying with "I don't like to read" My examples are crude, and maybe even sometimes misapplied, that is why I linked to the site. But just knowing maybe 10 major concepts has upped my game tremendously.
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11-18-2004, 01:03 PM
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Re: The 2+2 equivalent of meeting women
I'd say one of the most important ideas is Kinetics.
Set the foundation that touching is ok within the first five minutes. Place your hand on her shoulder, the small of her back. If your relationship starts off with touching as being acceptable, flirting becomes much easier. You will end up holding hands etc. much faster.
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11-18-2004, 02:00 PM
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The 2+2 equivalent of meeting women [/ QUOTE ] I thought downloading porn off kazaa was the 2+2 equivalent of meeting women. Orange
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#17
11-18-2004, 02:50 PM
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Re: The 2+2 equivalent of meeting women
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</font><blockquote><font class="small">En réponse à:</font><hr /> The 2+2 equivalent of meeting women [/ QUOTE ] I thought downloading porn off kazaa was the 2+2 equivalent of meeting women. Orange [/ QUOTE ] No, no. That's the way 2+2er's meet women.
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11-18-2004, 03:10 PM
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As far as fluff talk goes, they talk about something called Eliciting Values. Basically you find out what qualities they find important, or characterstics about themselves that they like and act as if you have the same qualities. "I love reading" "Me too, I've read this and this, I loved this" Even if you hate reading, you surely have read something you can talk about. This is much better than replying with "I don't like to read" My examples are crude, and maybe even sometimes misapplied, that is why I linked to the site. But just knowing maybe 10 majr concepts has upped my game tremendously. [/ QUOTE ] So if I understand you correctly, you like this site because it has made you a better liar?
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#20
11-18-2004, 03:30 PM
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Re: The 2+2 equivalent of meeting women
I have never flat out lied to someone's face. I'm just saying keep things positive.
Also, don't think I'm some sleezy guy that does anything he can to get with chicks. I am a romantic by heart. My goal is to find the one person I can be with and share the rest of my life with. I have been with my current gf for nearly two years, we are very much in love. It could be true that most of the people soaking up this information are just trying to get laid by whatever means possible. This site just helped me become more confident in meeting women, and I truly attribute it to the reason I am with my gf today. After I found asf I met many women. Kissed a lot of girls at parties, went on dates. I probalby could have got with a lot of them but I didn't. I just used the information to go out and be comfortable with more women, therefore enhancing the chance that I meet someone I could spend the rest of my life with. It is up to you to decide whether or not to be a sleezbag. The information presented is "just the way it works" I had a friend in college who was an average looking dude, yet he always had girls around him and was always dating and sleeping with people. I couldn't figure out why this guy was so "successful." After I read some of this stuff I studied him. Most of the things discussed on that site were just natural for him. He was very open and outgoing, very touchy feely. Girls with bfs would always be playing with his hair and hugging him, and he'd hug them back and make sex jokes etc. I would ask the girls about it, and they would say, "oh, that's just chuck, that's the way he is." This is because when he first met them he was touchy feely etc. Honestly he was a good friend of mine, and whenever he would see me he'd be like.. "Hey Chad, what's up! and put his hand on my shoulder" I guess he was just good at making people feel comfortable. All I'm trying to get across is that there are some basic things you can learn and do to increase your confidence and talk to more girls. It's really funny how some of you guys are automatically negative, as if you've heard it all before. It's just some cheesy infomercial type trash "to help you bang chicks." Imagine you and your friends are trying to find the perfect girl and to do so you go out and talk to a lot of girls each day. Then you come back and talk about each situation and what you said/did that helped you make a connection or made the girl get up and leave. After trying this for years and years you have come up with a few things that are really key to meeting girls, or even people in general and helping you establish and guide the relationship in the direction you want it to go. Then you try and outline everything you have learned. That is what is going on. Stop acting like uppidy pricks that are above learning something.
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