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While without Israel, Islamic fundamentalists might not be attacking the West in the 21st century, they also might be
"they also might be" -- this is your entire basis for dismissing a clear link as has been self-described by AQ. On the basis of small maybe's you support a war that has killed tens of thousands and on a small maybe you insist on denying any causal connection in pursuit of you religious war. "they also might be" --- four words that brilliantly illuminate your insights into the matter. Thank you for the clarity. |
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"While a credible case can be made for the 9/11 direct causal timeline starting with Lebanon, the real seeds were sown in 1948. If America had not supported Israel we would not be under attack -- Period."
Actually, and this may surprise those people who don't know what happened in history before Ronald Reagan, the United States was NOT the keenest supporter of new-born Israel in 1948. If anything, the US was highly suspicious of a new country, created by some unreliable (and un-controlled) ideologues smack in the middle of oil-rich Arabia, an area which was ripe to be inherited by the US from battered Britain. Moreover, those leaders of the new state of Israel were decidedly ..socialist! The most ardent supporter of Israel's creation at the time was the Soviet Union! The US was reluctant and suspicious. Amidst all the "reactionary regimes" of corrupt sheikhdoms, maintained by Great Britain to serve Her Majesty's interests in the region, was to be created a pesky, little socialist state?! Why, it might jeopardize the whole Arabia, ruled by fiercely anti-communist and pro-western leaders! Of course, as time passed, and the United States was assured that socialism "Israeli-style" was for domestic consumption only (it was the nationalist socialist variant, actually, i.e. socialism reserved only for the "ruling race") and as soon as domestic politics in America started getting affected by the various AIPACS, the balance shifted decisively and resolutely in favour of unqualified support towards Israel. That the blind, unqualified American support of Israel has been a strategic disaster for the supporter (but a glorious success for the supported) cannot be seriously disputed. It's a non starter. Every time I have tried to argue the matter, I was confronted typically, sooner or later, with some pathetic moral arguments. |
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I thought he said they were to blame the other day. Anybody have anything on this?? Maybe GWB himself has the answer...
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