Did I play this hand right?

[Michael Davis]

Roadstar,

You should forget that paragraph you quoted every was written.

-Michael

[Roadstar]

Whys that? (not mocking, just want to know your point of view)

[Michael Davis]

I'm just parroting the better posters when I say that telling people not to raise Js preflop is just garbage advice.

There have been entire threads on this in the past, but I don't have the acumen to find them.

-Michael

[Roadstar]

So if you were in a loose table in a 2-4 game, would you raise with JJ? Thx!

[Michael Davis]

Yes, but what I would do doesn't really matter. I raise JJ expecting any number of callers because my hand is damn good and I don't care how many people I play against.

-Michael

[private joker]

Roadie -- in a 2/4 game with loose players, you must raise preflop with JJ. Why? Because even though some Kxo will call and beat you when an overcard hits, you'll win far more pots from worse hands. Remember, you're not raising because you will win the hand most of the time; you're raising because you'll win the hand more often than the % of the pot you're putting in dictates. With five callers, you're putting in 20%. JJ will win more than 20% of the time. You'll be frustrated the 2/3 of the time it doesn't win, but the 1/3 of the time it does, your pots will be nice because you raised and you'll almost always have more than three players making your decision +EV.

[jtr]

Don't mean to be a jerk, but with five callers it's even better news: you're putting in only 16.7% of the money.

[mike_sharpe]

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Well I was playing wimpy due to the number of callers pre flop which I wasn't too thrilled about.

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Do you play online? If so, which sites / limits and what is your screen name?

[edthayer]

I believe Sklansky said that about JJ in HPFAP, right?

HPFAP does not apply to low-limit games. It assumes the players you are up against are decent. With JJ in a small stakes game, you want to raise every time because you will be called by worse hands. Every time a worse hand calls you before the flop, you make money.

[BigBaitsim (milo)]

Without looking at the results, or others' comments, my inclination is to raise on the flop, and bet out the turn. If check-raised, I'm probably calling down, unless I have a read on the guy as a rock, then I'd more likely fold to aggression on the turn.