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Old 09-14-2004, 05:34 PM
srblan srblan is offline
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Default Re: What is your \'standard bet\' in NL Hold\'em?

This is precisely the reason that you probably want to avoid that type of hand out of position, especially when the pot is raised.

If you feel that betting the pot size will commit you, then you might as well go ahead and push. You might get people making a weak call for the rest of your money at the end just because it's "Only $20 more" (for instance).
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:26 PM
PokerSlut PokerSlut is offline
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Default Re: What is your \'standard bet\' in NL Hold\'em?

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...However, what are people's thoughts on Caro's premise that on average your bet size should reflect the strength of your hand? Sounds pretty dubious to me - or have I missed something?

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It depends how big the random variations are and to which hands each size range would apply. There are some players I play against regularly whose hand I can often pin down preflop based purely on the size of their bet (and of course other table conditions), even though they try to vary it a bit.

I'm sure Mike Caro is much more gifted at avoiding this kind of tell than the folks I play against in the LA cardrooms, but it is one thing to preach this kind of strategy, and another to properly apply it.
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: What is your \'standard bet\' in NL Hold\'em?

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Good post. One quibble:
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I recall this was Ciaffone's general idea but wasn't it more like 2/3 the pot when it is ragged and a slight overbet when the board contains draws (even if you are semi-bluffing with a draw?).

~ Rick

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Yes, this is what he recommends. However since I also play PL regularly I tend to bet closer to pot-sized or a little under rather than pot-sized or a little over against drawing boards. Against raggedy flops in my recent games where there are a lot of loose callers, I have recently been betting a bit smaller than 2/3 on the flop to get an extra caller or two, then larger on the turn (when there are almost always more potential draws) which tends to generate a bigger total pot on average.
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