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Old 08-27-2004, 02:40 PM
Triumph36 Triumph36 is offline
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Default Re: Ugh... concede or call on the river?

I'm not sure this is correct, but I think the problem starts with the flop bet. By having 2 other people calling along in position, you have no idea where you're at. You could be up against AQ or a set or another flush draw. If you bet the flop harder, the BB might raise to find out where he is at, and you can play the hand a little more safely. The BB must figure you for a pair of kings in calling along, hoping to grab your stack on the turn and river.

I think this is the drawback to playing a drawing hand way out of position. You just have no idea what you're up against and when the board pairs, you can't know if you're against open trips or a full house.

I'd like to think I could have laid this down on the turn, and I certainly hope I would have on the river (two players all in), but I'm not sure I could have, because I could have thought BB had open trips and that UTG+1 just made a lower flush.

I'd suggest that if you can't make laydowns like that, don't play hands like this out of position. Against players who call minraises with hands like KT and K8, you're bound to be making +EV plays most of the time.
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