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#13
08-17-2004, 05:51 PM
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Re: Ugly 60-120 KJo hand
"I'm sure it isn't actually Mike w/ the KJo here."
check his previous posts. im 100% sure it's him. he needs to read ed's book. it says in there that cold calling raises w/ dominated crappy hands like KJo is one of the biggest errors you can make. 
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#14
08-17-2004, 08:51 PM
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what I was \"thinking\" at the table and the results
First of all, I shouldn't have been in this game. I was stuck and not getting very many hands. King-Jack! Two of the top four. So I cold called. I really "wanted" multiway action so I could win a bigger pot and at least get even.
Anyone for a threebet? If I was going to steam with this hand I might as well get it heads up and drive out the blinds. But I called anyway. Maybe a jack will flop (it did!) or I'll get a straight draw. And I thought I could get away with this cold call at 60-120. Back to the hand. River was a blank. BB bet, steamer called and I called. BB showed 43o(!), and EP didn't show. Ah, I wish I had three-bet. But in reality I knew I should be folding when I called, and I called anyway--the worst option of them all. I left the table immediately and put another dime on Panthers. Yes, I have been reading SSH and I knew KJo is a terrible hand in this spot. So it's back to 4-8 online for awhile.
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#15
08-17-2004, 09:01 PM
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Re: what I was \"thinking\" at the table and the results
If you were determined to play this hand, I think I would prefer, given the choice to call or raise, the option of raising. Getting this heads-up is more likely and you in a better position to make a few hundred when the flop hits you. Regardless, you obviously realize that you should've folded preflop but if you were determined not to -- I think I like raising more than calling.
Barron Vangor Toth www.BarronVangorToth.com
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#17
08-17-2004, 10:01 PM
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Re: what I was \"thinking\" at the table and the results
mike come to the poker/movie night thursday. would love to meet you. details are on the new gossip forum. pm me if you cant find it.
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#18
08-17-2004, 11:42 PM
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Re: what I was \"thinking\" at the table and the results
mikelow you getting bored too much not betting on sports? Haven't seen you around the sports betting much. Well as for the hand everyone has already said what they said.
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#20
08-18-2004, 11:28 AM
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excellent play!
3 bet with KJo pre-flop to a EP raiser in a 60-120 game?
I think this is an excellent play. I think people these days who are non-2+2 readers are playing way too tight, and don't realize that real money can be made with late position preflop isolation re-raises with nice starting hands like 2 paint cards. The other day, I even saw someone fold 8-5o for two bets cold from late position. It's amazing how tight some people play, even though the respected pros on this site advice strongly against it. TSP
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