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Old 08-10-2004, 10:29 PM
Sidekick Sidekick is offline
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Hmmm... I didn't think of some of the things that have been brought up at the time, but the table was averaging a bit below 40% of the players seeing the flop. This seems about typical in my experience with PokerStars. I don't believe that this qualifies as a loose table at the micro limits.

When I said the button was generally not aggressive I did not mean to imply that I had never seen the button be aggressive. More a case of often when button turned up a winning hand and looked at the board, I felt that most of the time button could/should have been more aggressive.

Perhaps this will better define what some of the posters have seen in the hand?

Thanks for all of the replies so far. I appreciate the input. I will try and post the results of the hand later tonight.
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Old 08-11-2004, 12:26 AM
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I'd bet/checkraise the turn. I'm not calling the river with K-high.
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Old 08-11-2004, 12:55 AM
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Thank you all for your input. I really appreciate the help on fixing problems with my game.

The results were:
Button turned up 5h, Qh.

Once the hand was turned up, button appeared to have been going with a semi-bluff on the straight draw.
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Old 08-11-2004, 02:18 AM
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I would've tried to out-bet to the turn and check-folded on the river. If someone raised my bet I would've folded as well.
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Old 08-11-2004, 02:20 AM
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I would've tried to out-bet to the turn... If someone raised my bet I would've folded as well.

You have a four flush and 2 overcards on the turn. You cannot fold the turn.
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Old 08-11-2004, 02:41 AM
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I would raise the turn. Even if someone has the made straight, you have nine outs to beat them, and if they are on the draw with either the ace or a pair, you have six more outs. Raising the turn might get you a free showdown if you hit, or you can bet out if the straight draw doesnt complete.

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Old 08-11-2004, 08:29 AM
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I consider check/raising the flop (to try to get heads up with the button who could hold anything) with a decent pot.

I consider check/raising the turn as a semibluff.

I'd rather lead the river or check/fold the river than check/call. Leading at least gives someone with an A-high a chance to fold.
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Old 08-11-2004, 09:18 AM
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in most situations this preflop raise is bad... in a loose passive table you'll be getting a few less than everyone with this play... KQ suited plays well in multi-way pots, but when it doesn't hit with decent but not huge crowds around, you're throwing money away...

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Granted, KQs will not win the majority of the time in loose-passive tables, but that's irrelevant to whether the PF raise is correct. KQs will definitely win a disproportionate share of hands, making the raise a +EV play.

Let's say he gets 5 callers. Will KQs win more than 1/6 of the time? Absolutely.
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Old 08-11-2004, 09:55 AM
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in most situations this preflop raise is bad

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I can't think of any.
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