With all of the grief that Phil Hellmuth gets.....

[Beavis68]

I would like to see how Stu would do today against all the internet players who get into the WSOP main event for $25.

If Stu had lived longer, I doubt he would be anywhere near the legend he is now.

[ohgeetee]

then you need to reazd a bit more about Stu Ungar. He was borderline not human.

When a guy can count down 3 decks of a 6 deck shoe then tell you what is left exactly, you can't compare it to some internet kids seeing 10x more poker hands than any pro ever saw.

As said in pulp fiction, thats not the same ballpark, its not even the same fuckin game.

[jwvdcw]

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I would like to see how Stu would do today against all the internet players who get into the WSOP main event for $25.

If Stu had lived longer, I doubt he would be anywhere near the legend he is now.

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Dude, he won 10 of the 30 big buy in($5000+) tourneys he played! That means he could lose in 20 straight WSOPs and he'd still be far and away the best ever, as winning 10 out of 50 is still pretty damn impressive.

[-Syk-]

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After all, how many times do you really think you've seen Phil go on tilt in the sense that it negatively affects his play? I can't think of one time.

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..after Antonio Esfandiari kept coming over the top of Phil whenever he raised, Phil went all in with K3os and lost. He was defenitely on tilt right there.

And also, how do you go on tilt and not have it negatively affect your play? That's what tilt is, making poor decisions while playing due to frustration.

[deacsoft]

I did actually. I was shocked to hear of his death.

[jwvdcw]

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After all, how many times do you really think you've seen Phil go on tilt in the sense that it negatively affects his play? I can't think of one time.

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..after Antonio Esfandiari kept coming over the top of Phil whenever he raised, Phil went all in with K3os and lost. He was defenitely on tilt right there.

And also, how do you go on tilt and not have it negatively affect your play? That's what tilt is, making poor decisions while playing due to frustration.

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What I meant to imply is that often times it appears as if Phil is pissed off and on tilt, but in reality he is mad yet still at the top of his game.

[daryn]

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Perhaps we'll look back at his whining and poor sportsmanship and see it as great poker psychology.

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some of us already do.

[daryn]

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If Phil can adjust to the current top players styles he might be able to pull something off, but his arrogance and overvaluation of himself is a speedbump to this epiphany he might one day have.

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pull something off? the man has 9 bracelets, and won 2 last year! 2nd all time in WSOP winnings, only 2nd to raymer and his $5MIL


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When you think you can do no wrong, yet continue to run dry, even going so far as to say that if luck weren't involved, youw ould never lose, the chance that you are going to fill the leak in your game gets slimmer and slimmer.


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yeah, big leak phil has. getting his money in with the best of it consistently.

[Stew]

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Perhaps we'll look back at his whining and poor sportsmanship and see it as great poker psychology.

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some of us already do.

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The psychology ends when you get busted. It's one thing to talk trash during a tournament, but his whining from the rail shows a definite lack of class. That's not psychological warfare, that's being childish and a sore loser.

[daryn]

yeah, it's tough to be the best [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]