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Old 08-06-2004, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Tourney report/some hands from the Legends of Poker $330NL at the Bike

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However, I'd strongly recommend you avoid engaging in discussions criticizing other players' hands. It's only going to lead to bad things - things around you will get much more unpredictable.

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Umm, what? That's kind of the point of this forum, to discuss, evaluate, and yes, critisize the hands of both ourselves and others...
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Old 08-06-2004, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Tourney report/some hands from the Legends of Poker $330NL at the Bike

Why is it bad to bet a dead pot with a made hand?
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Old 08-06-2004, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: Tourney report/some hands from the Legends of Poker $330NL at the Bike

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Why is it bad to bet a dead pot with a made hand?

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I'm confused. Which hand are you talking about?
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Old 08-06-2004, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Tourney report/some hands from the Legends of Poker $330NL at the Bike

I agree with you..as I said it was the right thing to do per what happened on the turn.
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Old 08-06-2004, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: Tourney report/some hands from the Legends of Poker $330NL at the Bike

Are you talking about when I said to him I am surprised he called with that hand?
I don't players they suck as I don't want to educate him.

And why would this make things around me more predictable?
If so, fine. I have no problem making difficult decisions.

So can you please explain what you are talking about.
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Old 08-06-2004, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: Tourney report/some hands from the Legends of Poker $330NL at the Bike

i assume you mean a dry side pot.

it is okay...he was right to bet it there. Especially far from the money, there is little to be gained from knocking someone out.
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Old 08-06-2004, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: Tourney report/some hands from the Legends of Poker $330NL at the Bike

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I ask him if he told him how lucky he got (not in a mean way), he says there is a lot of luck in NL (which I don’t really agree with).


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No luck in NL?? Yeah right.
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Old 08-06-2004, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Tourney report/some hands from the Legends of Poker $330NL at the Bike

I never said there is no luck.
But to hear a guy with two bracelets say there is a lot of luck, almost as if he plays to get lucky and uses it to justify his play, was surprising to me.
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Old 08-06-2004, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: Tourney report/some hands from the Legends of Poker $330NL at the Bike

There IS a lot of luck in a tourney. You play the best you can, but you have to get lucky at some point. You have to get decent cards. Then you have to get a favorable flop. Then you have to have someone have a 2nd best hand to call your bet. Then you have to have your hand hold up. Then you have to repeat a few times.
I think there is much more luck involved than we who study the game would like to admit.
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Old 08-06-2004, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: Tourney report/some hands from the Legends of Poker $330NL at the Bike

Yes, in an individual hand, you obviously need a ton of luck.

But, over hundreds of hands, skill wins out.

I consider my luck to be when somebody plays terribly in a hand and gives me a ton of chips when I shouldn't have gotten them.
Not by calling poorly and sucking out.

I also consider it good luck, not to have had bad luck in the tourney.
Heck, my only two great starting hands of the night were where I lost almost all my chips.

But, you can't rely on luck as the way to make money in a tourney.
Skillful players are going to be the ones making money in the longterm..not those hoping to get lucky.
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