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Old 07-30-2004, 12:15 AM
andyfox andyfox is offline
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No doubt you're right--the Bush team has a vision. But so did Mao. Often vision turns into blindness (see Vietnam). I'd rather have somebody who tries this and that than someone with bad vision.

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Old 07-30-2004, 12:32 AM
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Great speech.

Hope is on the way.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:37 AM
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I just reread the whole thing.

It makes me sad that this kind of shallow pandering treacle is greeted by the sheeple as some kind of wonderful, meaningful speech.

It's full of self-contradictions, cheap shots worthy of the Daily Show but not the convention, high-minded empty rhetoric about "hope" and "children" that can only possibly please the simpering vacant, and worst of all, one of the few specific promises from him was that he was adamantly opposed to any change to Social Security.

I get so depressed during election years. Unfortunately, this awful speech will only be rivaled by the one to come from Bush in a few weeks.

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Old 07-30-2004, 12:42 AM
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You're missing the point. The content of the speech was irrelevant. It was about selling John Kerry as being presidential. And about George Bush as being unpresidential.

Older people tend to be more conservative. Hence the Social Security promise.

Politics is pandering.
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Old 07-30-2004, 04:18 AM
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Default JFK all the way!

I'm starting to believe that he will win.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: John Kerry\'s speech

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You're missing the point. The content of the speech was irrelevant.

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Really? Is the party platform irrelevant as well? So my assumption that the speech was a waste of my time was probably correct.


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It was about selling John Kerry as being presidential. And about George Bush as being unpresidential.

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This is vague. So the uncommitted voters are listening to Kerry's speech with a critical eye as to which candidate is the most "presidential" whatever that word means ?

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Older people tend to be more conservative. Hence the Social Security promise.

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John Kerry has learned something from his time being a Senator. Social Security is the ultimate sacred cow in Congress, no congressman will sign up for any substantial change in the system at this time IMO. Natedogg in another thread more or less showed the vacuousness of the quoted statement by Kerry.

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Politics is pandering.

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Ok so the Democratic party platform is irrelevant and amounts to pandering I suppose. Doesn't the electorate deserve more than pandering? Methinks they do and I know you do as well. How do you feel about Bush pandering to the religious right?
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Old 07-30-2004, 07:22 AM
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I'm GWB and I'm reporting for duty.


Hampster Rescue Man did a mediocre job, which is good for him given his past performance.


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Old 07-30-2004, 09:10 AM
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If he can siphon off enough votes from the slightly right and lock in more from center, he will win.

Very smart to play up the "reporting for duty" and strong America theme. IMO his best strategy would be to concentrate on this sort of stuff more, and focus much less on typical Democrat positions because he's already got the left-of-center crowd in his camp.
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Old 07-30-2004, 09:15 AM
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I'm GWB and I'm reporting for duty.


Hampster Rescue Man did a mediocre job, which is good for him given his past performance.




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Did you notice there is no reference to the Democratic Party on the podium? Are they embarassed to say they are Democrats?
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:26 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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I was disappoinetd that he felt it necessary to pander to the bible-thumpers.
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