Ed Miller is ruining my preflop statistics

[Abe]

Advice = Do read the Miller book. SSH, or IT, or whatever you want to call it.

Excellent info. Not really just for "Small" stakes. Really directed at loose games with bad players - at any limit.

[MicroBob]

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Am trying to play the advice in SSH and now am seeing KJo, Q8s, 22 etc. YIKES!

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why do i have a feeling that you are sometimes playing these hands when you shouldn't be??

it's situation dependent. unless you are at a pretty goofy table, i suspect that your VPIP-25 indicates you are playing way too loose.


regarding KJo, Q8s and 22.
sometimes i will see the flop with these hands...other times i will be folding them.

2 limps and a raise and i have KJo. i'm out of there.

if you have EVER cold-called with KJo you've made a mistake.

a limp and a raise and it comes to me with 22 in the CO. Muck-o-rama!!!


Ed is not making a loose-player out of you (or others).
the mis-application of his concepts is.


confirm some of your loose-calls with posts in the ML or SS forums. there are a lot of KJo, Q8s and 22 calls that some players make that they should not be making.

conversely, there are also a lot of folds with these hands that they should not be folding.
example - 22 on button. raised by EP and 3 players cold-call. you are okay to call 2-bets cold with this one.
another example - 5 limpers and you have Q8s in LP or in the SB. call call call.

[Tosh]

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Sorry for the late reply. Maybe these guys are better POST flop than average.

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Doubtful. They have just hit a run of cards and 500 hands is such a short period you cannot read anything into it.