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Re: 80-160 AQ suited
What the flop bet accomplishes are more bets on future hands when I flop a monster. It also adds deception when I don't want a call on later streets.
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Re: 80-160 AQ suited
To get you to snap the table in two of course. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
See my reply to astroglide. `dude |
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Re: 80-160 AQ suited
This line would send me on insta-tilt. So it's got that going for it.
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Re: 80-160 AQ suited
The actual EV cost of your flop bet will never ever be overcome with extra EV you make from other hands.
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Re: 80-160 AQ suited
dude, why not check-raise the turn to see if he'll fold?
You already knew you were calling his river bet (probably) and there could have been a slight chance he would fold to your CR. He had a pair did'nt he? (hole cards I mean) [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: 80-160 AQ suited
Why does everyone hate the flop bet so much here? I'm not sure that it's the greatest play, but didn't I get some advice sometime that if you have a hand with which you're willing to call a bet, you might as well lead out. If you get raised, it's time for some deep thought.
This seems to fit that scenario, so the question is...did I get some bad advice, or did I just misunderstand? I've absorbed a LOT of poker in the past year, and the wires are known to get crossed. |
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Re: 80-160 AQ suited
A player calling two cold pre-flop sitting in MP.
Dude may have just failed the Ace-Queen test by betting out on the flop in his early position. |
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Re: 80-160 AQ suited
I forgot about the preflop cold-caller, and that definitely helps me to understand.
I hear a lot about the AQ test, but not sure of an actual description...can anyone explain? |
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Re: 80-160 AQ suited
Hi 1800GAMBLER,
[ QUOTE ] The actual EV cost of your flop bet will never ever be overcome with extra EV you make from other hands. [/ QUOTE ] This is a ridiculous notion. He loses very little EV here, unless his opponent is going to raise it very often. And because it's an odd bet and he's heads up out of position, his opponent is less likely to raise the flop with a good hand. Obviously, if he checks, his opponent will bet, and he'll call. So no EV is lost when 1 Bet goes in on the flop. And the potential gain from this play is hard to measure; if he gets into a similar situation soon with a powerful hand, it will probably pay off big time. If his opponents all quit next hand and he never sees them again, it'll gain nothing. Tough to say what it's worth. |
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Re: 80-160 AQ suited
Cuz you don't want him to fold any hand that is behind on the turn.
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