Stopping Bluffs

[droidboy]

Let me get this stright.

You're playing against a player who bluffs too much and you think it's a good idea to get him to bluff less?

I'll let other elaborate the logical flaw in the above reasoning.

- Andrew

www.pokerstove.com

[Dante]

my initial "feel" was 10-15%. After thinking for awhile, I feel the number is 10%, possibly lower, for his bluffing % to make folding correct in big pots. Of course my thinking involved math....

[chief444]

Since everyone else is guessing at a set percentage, I'll take a stab as well. As has been pointed out it does depend on pot size. But assuming an average pot of 5-10 BB's, I think the answer is lower than the guesses so far. With that pot range the correct bluffing percentage would be somewhere in the range of 10-20%. So I think the 12%-20% guesses so far would actually be about the worst case for you. I'm thinking 5% or less bluffing frequency to improve over the opponent bluffing far too often.

[turnipmonster]

I liked the more precise RGP version you had of a similar problem a while back, where lederer got jimmy warren to come up with a formula in terms of pot size.

speaking of pot size, it's very important in this question. how can we come up with a percentage if we don't know the odds a bet is laying?

--turnipmonster

[turnipmonster]

my objections notwithstanding, I'll go with 15%.

--turnipmonster

[ML4L]

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Let me get this stright.

You're playing against a player who bluffs too much and you think it's a good idea to get him to bluff less?

I'll let other elaborate the logical flaw in the above reasoning.

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And I'll let others elaborate on the logical flaw in yours.

What's better than your opponent consistently making a big mistake? Your opponent consistently making a BIGGER mistake...

ML4L

[ML4L]

I can't believe how badly some pretty good players have butchered this...

Obviously, we need a definition of "big pot" to get precise with the answer, but I can tell you that it is NOT 20%, 15%, nor 10%. 5% is starting to look a little more like it, but depending on the actual pot size, it might be less.

My "official" guess will be 3%.

ML4L

[droidboy]

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Let me get this stright.

You're playing against a player who bluffs too much and you think it's a good idea to get him to bluff less?

I'll let other elaborate the logical flaw in the above reasoning.

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And I'll let others elaborate on the logical flaw in yours.


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There is no logic in my post. But good try.

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What's better than your opponent consistently making a big mistake? Your opponent consistently making a BIGGER mistake...


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Are you arguing for or against my point?

- Andrew

www.pokerstove.com

[1800GAMBLER]

I'd like to change my answer to 5%

[1800GAMBLER]

Yes. He's argueing against. Would you rather have him bluff 1 in 3 times or bluff 1 in 100 times?