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#11
09-01-2005, 12:44 PM
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Re: Embarassingly Butchered AQ Hand
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I'd push the flop. Did he have 2 hearts? I'd also move up to the $11s since they aren't really any harder than the $5s. [/ QUOTE ] Pushing 2600 chips into a pot of 150 is not a good play. I also like c/r on the flop, but make it ~250 instead of 2600. 
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#13
09-01-2005, 12:53 PM
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Re: Embarassingly Butchered AQ Hand
Given that you got to the river like this, what are you guys doing on the river?
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#14
09-01-2005, 12:55 PM
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Re: Embarassingly Butchered AQ Hand
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I'd push the flop. Did he have 2 hearts? I'd also move up to the $11s since they aren't really any harder than the $5s. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you push the flop into this smallish pot? The same thing can be accomplished by making a "normal" raise on the flop. I'd probably raise the flop to somewhere around 300.
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#15
09-01-2005, 12:58 PM
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Re: Embarassingly Butchered AQ Hand
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Given that you got to the river like this, what are you guys doing on the river? [/ QUOTE ] I'm definitely calling that river bet. Overbetting the pot like that doesn't look like a big hand to me. I wouldn't put him on a flush or a set. I think you are ahead here a lot of the time. And the times you do lose, you aren't shortstacked by any means.
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#16
09-01-2005, 01:10 PM
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Re: Embarassingly Butchered AQ Hand
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[ QUOTE ] I'd push the flop. Did he have 2 hearts? I'd also move up to the $11s since they aren't really any harder than the $5s. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you push the flop into this smallish pot? The same thing can be accomplished by making a "normal" raise on the flop. I'd probably raise the flop to somewhere around 300. [/ QUOTE ] If I'm planning on getting all your chips in on the river as a caller (like Noah did), I'd much rather be proactive and be the one pushing all my chips in. I'd also try to do it while my opponent is drawing rather than letting him complete his draw. If the stacks were deeper like in a $55, or if I were playing a deep stack MTT, I wouldn't just push my chips in, I'd actually try to keep the pot small and actually play post flop poker. I don't think a $5 STT with short stacks is the place to be playing post-flop poker - you just don't have that many chips. Push your chips in and fire up another STT if you lose. You could also fold on the flop, but I wouldn't.
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#17
09-01-2005, 01:19 PM
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Re: Embarassingly Butchered AQ Hand
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I don't think a $5 STT with short stacks is the place to be playing post-flop poker [/ QUOTE ] The stacks in this hand are not short. There is plenty of room for post flop play in this hand.
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#18
09-01-2005, 01:21 PM
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Re: Embarassingly Butchered AQ Hand
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[ QUOTE ] I might have folded to the 200 bet on the turn but probably I wouldn't have. [/ QUOTE ] I find that statement incredibly funny. I would have c/r'ed the flop. Maybe 2.5x his bet, to see where he's at. If he pushes, time to make a decision! [/ QUOTE ]
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#19
09-01-2005, 01:44 PM
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Re: Embarassingly Butchered AQ Hand
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'd push the flop. Did he have 2 hearts? I'd also move up to the $11s since they aren't really any harder than the $5s. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you push the flop into this smallish pot? The same thing can be accomplished by making a "normal" raise on the flop. I'd probably raise the flop to somewhere around 300. [/ QUOTE ] If I'm planning on getting all your chips in on the river as a caller (like Noah did), I'd much rather be proactive and be the one pushing all my chips in. I'd also try to do it while my opponent is drawing rather than letting him complete his draw. If the stacks were deeper like in a $55, or if I were playing a deep stack MTT, I wouldn't just push my chips in, I'd actually try to keep the pot small and actually play post flop poker. I don't think a $5 STT with short stacks is the place to be playing post-flop poker - you just don't have that many chips. Push your chips in and fire up another STT if you lose. You could also fold on the flop, but I wouldn't. [/ QUOTE ] This is on Stars. The stacks are actually 50% larger than they are in the $55s.
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#20
09-01-2005, 02:15 PM
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My Thoughts
I actually think I should fold the turn. I'm in a really bad spot there: not sure if I'm drawing dead, drawing live, or being drawn on. I was 100% ready to fold after the pfr's call; when he folded, I was stumped. Looking back, OOP, I have to fold this. In position, I'm raising that. But OOP, I've gotta fold I think.
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