Hands I Present Thee, Three. Help ME.

[Lloyd]

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my opponent seemed on the somewhat tight side. Lets just say I was making an effort to pay attention, and I was surprised by his cc of my raise. I believe he is a thinking player, although its hard to say this early, in a tourney that has lots of juicy satelliters in it.

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That's a little more info than:

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No good info on villian in this hand.

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Now I think checking is reasonable for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I also have been thinking about c-bets from OOP and whether or not they've been profitable. I haven't come to any conclusions but on a ragged flop I find that most people think I've got Ax and missed when they have a pair, so they call. Of course, this is good to know when I have an overpair or better. I think I'm going to start keeping track of c-bets and see if I can get a decent sample size that provides more info.

[Chief911]

Yah. Whoops.

I started thinking more about the hand, went back and reread the HH.

And I was 3-tabling limit tables at the time. Oh, I wish I had ADD.

Nick

[billyjex]

wtf? why are people liking hand 1? bet! you are heads up after being the PFR, you will take this down enough to make a 90 bet profitable, if he calls, you might hit an A/Q, or you guys might check it down and you will win w/ A high. keep it simple and bet.

hand 2, is fine, folding pf to the 2nd raise might be cool, cause when you flop an overpair it's gonna suck going broke to a QQ/KK/AA.

hand 3, i dunno, this is TT/AK/AQ alot more than its a big pair cause some people have a good but vulnerable holding like that and can't really do much else but go all in. so I flip a coin and call if it's heads or tails.

[Lloyd]

1) Why bother raising from EP with something like AQ and not make some type of a continuation bet, particularly when the flop is as favorable as it comes without actually making a pair? You're not trying to steal the blinds. You're very likely to be called by a wide range of hands. You're going to miss the flop most of the time. You HAVE to take a shot at it. Otherwise just call and see what happens. I don't mind checking the flop if you have an intention to raise. But when he checks behind you've got to lead out on the turn. I also don't mind betting with the intention of 3-betting if raised.

2) Definitely don't like this line. If you want to see a cheap flop then fine but you need to fold when it's raised and re-raised. You're barely getting the right odds to call for a set and you still have the MP raiser who might re-raise. I would normally raise it up first.

3) Pretty close call. You wouldn't normally see AA there. Perhaps but not likely KK. QQ is possible. AK is very likely. TT/99 maybe. I think you're about even, maybe very slightly ahead of his range. Decent overlay for the blinds. I like taking these small edges early knowing I will often bust but giving me enough chips to start pushing things and building a big stack if I double up.

[M.B.E.]

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1) Why bother raising from EP with something like AQ and not make some type of a continuation bet, particularly when the flop is as favorable as it comes without actually making a pair?

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The 9-5-3 flop isn't really so favourable to AQ here, because on these stack sizes, whatever the opponent called with preflop is still going to look good enough to peel a card, usually, against a continuation bet.

I think checking the flop, with the intention of calling, is fine.

But when opponent checks behind on the flop, we should bet the turn.

[Lloyd]

I must have looked at this 3 times and saw A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] not A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. So I would still most likely C-bet. And I'd definitely lead the turn.

1) Bet flop and turn. Fold to raise.

2) Reraise PF to isolate. Flop: probably fold.

3) Might be a coinflip or a steal by button. I prefer pushing with JJ than calling with it. Only 3 hands are favored over you. I'm tempted to call.

[locutus2002]

1) I don't mind the fold. You can find a better spot against a player who will overbet. Your hand looks like a whiffed big ace played passively which is fine but goes directly to your image.

2) I'd push PF. Even without a read the two underraises look like poor attempts to isolate. It may look like an overbet, but I can't credit either player for KK,QQ with the small raise. That leaves AA, and a wide range of hands for both villains most of which have an ace in them. Hero probably has the best hand, doesn't want to see the flop and doesn't want to play it 3 ways (with a smaller raise). ATF I'd fold after playing it for set value.

3) I'd call. Hero is behind a traditional range of TT++,AK (not getting sufficient pot odds -> EV-), but I think there is a good chance that there is another overcall by either pairs less than JJ or overs which would make hero EV+++.