Quick, common question re. KQo preflop

[adamstewart]

That does it..... I'm obviously playing too LAGgy. I think I'm sitting at about VPIP 27 and PFR 20. I think I'm gonna try to trim those numbers down a little.


Adam

[sthief09]

impossible to tell based on that

[Jeff W]

I used to 3-bet this as a default. I did a sim w/ pokerstove and the equity is not pretty:

equity (%)
41.1826 % { KQo }
58.8174 % { 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QJs, ATo+, KJo+ }

[adamstewart]

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impossible to tell based on that

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true.


I'm more basing it on the fact that I feel a little laggy lately. Especially in light of that recent thread where everyone was going on about how Vehn, Schneids, etc used to be 20/15......



Adam

[sthief09]

just make the best decisions you can and don't worry about it unless there's something obviously wrong. if you're misplaying a lot of hands, tighten up

[sweetjazz]

Say you have lots (> 500) hands on UTG (who raised PF) and it's folded to you in CO. What is (roughly) the x such that:

If his PFR is < x, I fold.
If his PFR is > x, I raise.
(Is there an interval where you cold-call?)

Second question: If he's LAGgy enough that you 3-bet him in the CO with KQo, what is the smallest x that you'd rather be 3-betting him with Axo instead of KQo?

I know that other factors come into play -- particularly how poorly or well the villain plays postflop, but I think we could come up with some generic estimate here.

My views right now (as a beginner) are:
I 3-bet if his PFR is > 25% or so, and I think I'd prefer to 3-bet with ATo but not A9o.

[adamstewart]

Okay,

Let's say you're on the Button with KQo, and it's folded around to the CO who openraises. What's your play?

(again, assume no reads).



Adam

[DMBFan23]

I fold, I pretty much only 3 bet a CO raise on the button with this. KQs I'll 3 bet an MP raise from CO or button. arbitrary I know but that's what I do...

[MAxx]

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Okay,

Let's say you're on the Button with KQo, and it's folded around to the CO who openraises. What's your play?

(again, assume no reads).



Adam

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I'd really prefer to have a read here... but since I dont, I'll tell you that I have to go under the assumption that no read = avg 10/20 stealer. My default here= 3bet his ass.

[wheelz]

3-bet