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Old 06-03-2005, 03:26 PM
tytygoodnuts tytygoodnuts is offline
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Default Re: A10o keeps confusing me

I would raise preflop, but I don't think it's a big deal either way. You obviously have a pot equity edge, but by keeping the pot small you encourage more mistakes from donks post flop.
Definitely raise the flop. You are most likely ahead.
If you raise the flop the turn situation would be easier to play. As it is I would call down after the three bet. The pot is starting to big and the safe play is to just call down. You say that the villain is wild PF but not flop? I'm sure his wild tendencies carry over to post flop at least a little.
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Old 06-03-2005, 03:28 PM
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This was the first 3-bet post-flop I had seen in this game in the course of 5 hours, just to clarify.
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Old 06-03-2005, 03:31 PM
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This was the first 3-bet post-flop I had seen in this game in the course of 5 hours, just to clarify.

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Given this, and the way the hand played out up to this point, I think we have an insta-fold on our hands.
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Old 06-03-2005, 03:27 PM
Petertjem Petertjem is offline
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I think you should raise him on the flop because you probably have the best hand.

The hands that he could have (that have you beat) are 44 A4 K4 (loose preflop call) or AJ (maybe AQ, but he would probably bet preflop)

So raise him on the flop....That's the first thing you should do
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Old 06-03-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: A10o keeps confusing me

To clarify, he was the kind of player who would bet as long as no one else showed aggression, but would likely fold or just call down when shown aggression.

He beat up on the LP's since they never stood up to him, but his 3-bet threw me for a loop.

I expected him to fold/call down if I raised, so tried to squeeze some more money from him. Didn't work.
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Old 06-03-2005, 03:44 PM
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With 4 limpers in front of you, I'm OK with the PF call. Raising isn't going to cut the field down to less than 4 + you, IMO.

I raise preflop here to ensure heads-up. If he calls and still leads turn, I would call, saving 0.5 BB to this point vs. what you did (1 BB flop + 1 BB turn vs. 0.5 BB flop + 2 BB turn) and getting to see the river card. If he calls flop raise and check-raises turn, calling turn is debatable but I probably do it given pot size (8 BB in this case) and because you have some river outs (paired board or a T), though dirty at best. Based on his turn play, I put him on Aces up (A4s or A6s).

Based on what you did, I probably call and see river based on pot size, hoping for a T or paired board. Fold to river bet unimproved.
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Old 06-03-2005, 10:21 PM
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I was wondering what you had when you folded that. He probably has at least 2 pair, probably 64 ;0) Anyway, I made the mistake of calling him down too often, I think the fold is good.
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Old 06-03-2005, 10:54 PM
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I mucked it and he flipped over K4o for a flopped two pair. This game involved showing more uncalled hands than a 2+2 game. It was beautiful.
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