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Old 07-20-2005, 12:45 PM
krimson krimson is offline
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Ok, I get the pre-flop raise, but lets just say that one of the limpers folds and the rest call. How tentative are we on the flop with the ace flop, and people calling a pre-flop raise? Do you bet it out from first position? Check/call? Check raise? I'm a little stuck in these situations.

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Your really undervaluing your flop situation, we probably have the best hand here. Wouldn't someone raise pre-flop with AJ+? With that in mind leading and c/r'ing are the options. This table sounded fairly aggressive so I would probably c/r it.
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:53 PM
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Reload pre-preflop. Since you didn't, there is nothing you can do to keep from going all-in on this hand. I'll ignore preflop and say that you MUST raise the bet on the flop to protect your hand. Not raising preflop was a mistake, calling on the flop is a disaster.
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Old 07-20-2005, 01:54 PM
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Raise preflop. Bet the flop when you do.

Since you didn't, check-raise the flop when the old guy who "tries to pick up pots" bets.

Don't play with only 3BB.
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Old 07-20-2005, 02:49 PM
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SIMPLE! A10 should be dropped preflop at a 3/6 table! the tables to loose to count pair values, and Aj and up surely will play and dominate you. If you raise, ur only making the bad hands fold (a8, A4) Ditch the a10 preflop and your hourly expected rate will almost surely increase!
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Old 07-20-2005, 02:53 PM
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SIMPLE! A10 should be dropped preflop at a 3/6 table! the tables to loose to count pair values, and Aj and up surely will play and dominate you. If you raise, ur only making the bad hands fold (a8, A4) Ditch the a10 preflop and your hourly expected rate will almost surely increase!
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This is terrible, awful, and inexcusable advice. Please go to Micros as quickly as possible.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:04 PM
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thanks for the comments. I have some questions/thoughts I would like to bring up later, but have to go. Check this thread later.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:12 PM
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SIMPLE! A10 should be dropped preflop at a 3/6 table! the tables to loose to count pair values, and Aj and up surely will play and dominate you. If you raise, ur only making the bad hands fold (a8, A4) Ditch the a10 preflop and your hourly expected rate will almost surely increase!
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CDL

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Do you really think that someone wouldn't have raised AJ, AQ etc pf if they had it?
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:15 PM
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Raise preflop, bet the flop. The way u played it u absolutly have to CR the old guy.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:17 PM
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SIMPLE! A10 should be dropped preflop at a 3/6 table! the tables to loose to count pair values, and Aj and up surely will play and dominate you. If you raise, ur only making the bad hands fold (a8, A4) Ditch the a10 preflop and your hourly expected rate will almost surely increase!
hope i could help,
CDL

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Do you really think that someone wouldn't have raised AJ, AQ etc pf if they had it?

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Is this a gimmick account? Because, seriously, the advice is so over the top bad, it almost has to be faked.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:44 PM
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SIMPLE! A10 should be dropped preflop at a 3/6 table! the tables to loose to count pair values, and Aj and up surely will play and dominate you. If you raise, ur only making the bad hands fold (a8, A4) Ditch the a10 preflop and your hourly expected rate will almost surely increase!
hope i could help,
CDL

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Do you really think that someone wouldn't have raised AJ, AQ etc pf if they had it?

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You guys are forgetting this is B&M. I'm sure different casino's have different levels of aggression. If you find yourself at a 5/10 or lower game at the Taj in AC there are many a game where KK and worse are limped. Rarely do you see a PF 3-bet with AA. Also, I'm not a 2/4 player, but when 3/6 on Party went 6max I first opted to go to 2/4 to get a similar game to what I was used to and still play witin my bankroll comfortably. Again I was quite surprised at the premium hands being limped by a good 70% of the tables. It made me aware how bad these players actually are, but if you don't adjust your game (aggression levels, etc.)it could cost you. Hands like AJ and AT could easily be crushed without you knowing it or could just as easily have a field of coldcallers crushed.
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