3/6, difficult turn decision with TP/NK

[JoshuaD]

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edit: MicroBob's dead on with AF numbers. AF is a crappy noisy stat. The more loose they are preflop, the more aggressive lower numbers are.

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Can you explain this a bit more plz ?

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They calculate aggression factor like this:

(Times player bets + Time player raises) / (times player calls)

Imagine for a minute an otherwise strong player who decided to play 60% of his hands preflop.

If he played smart-aggressive postflop, he would have to have a lower aggression factor because alot more of his hands would be middle or bottom pair hands that have the odds to call to the turn, but aren't worth raising with.

He'll still be playing the top ~20% of his hands just like us, but he'll have alot more hands that he'll just be calling with.

So simpler put, he's playing as aggressive in the same spots we are, but he's got alot more spots where he should be passive.

[Trix]

The standard line is to call down as you only need to be good around 20% to make money as you get 8:2.
He may have turned a draw, a pair or may just think he can move you off unimproved big cards.

[JoshuaD]

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The standard line is to call down as you only need to be good around 20% to make money as you get 8:2.
He may have turned a draw, a pair or may just think he can move you off unimproved big cards.

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What're you doing here if the board is completely rainbow? I get the feeling I should be folding there more often, but can't against unknowns.

[Trix]

I still call down, I may fold if I know the player.

[ArturiusX]

We also have outs vs a lot of his hands he could have made too.

[PokerSparky]

I don't think you're good here very often. I call down here most of the time and hate myself when MHING.

[JoshuaD]

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I don't think you're good here very often. I call down here most of the time and hate myself when MHING.

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[PantherZ]

I called the turn checkraise. The river was a blank and I check/called.

He had J9o and MHWNG.

I hate these situations.

[Benman]

Call

[TomBrooks]

Fold.
Villian has J9 or slowplayed something better than TP Ten kicker. A straight draw is possible, but it seems unlikely Villian would raise with that on this hand since you've demonstrated you like your hand and he shouldn't be expecting you to fold it too often.