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Old 07-11-2004, 06:10 PM
nolanfan34 nolanfan34 is offline
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This trade reminds me of when the Mariners traded Griffey away. He was so insistant on being traded, that the M's had no leverage, and no chance of getting full value for him.

Shaq just did the same.

The guys the Lakers are getting are solid, but not superstars. You don't think Lamar Odom's former dealers from his time with the Clips aren't celebrating his return to LA? That can't be a good thing.

Caron Butler will really need to pick up his game for this trade to be worth it.

I also would be shocked to see Kobe return to LA now. That's not the start of a championship squad.
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Old 07-14-2004, 08:45 PM
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It's official.
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Old 07-14-2004, 08:48 PM
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Good Riddance. Maybe it will not dominate ESPN anymore. There are so many more important things like commercials, funny comments, and minor league games.
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Old 07-14-2004, 08:57 PM
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I also would be shocked to see Kobe return to LA now. That's not the start of a championship squad.

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I think he certainly will go to the LA Lakers now. Now, he gets all the proverbial ink. He will be the unquestioned "leader." And he ultimatley knows that he will have a better chance at one of the (what is it?) 30 playoff spots than if he goes to the Clips or where ever else. It would have to be the Clippers, Lakers, Knicks or maybe Nets. He cannot have attention that he craves anywhere else.
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Old 07-14-2004, 11:16 PM
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"Days after Los Angeles lost this year's championship series to Detroit, O'Neal demanded to be traded, weary of feuding with Kobe Bryant and feeling disrespected by owner Jerry Buss. He's under contract for $27.7 million this coming season and $30.6 million in 2005-06."

I guess Shaq has a different definition of disrespect than I do. Seems to me like he had 58,300,000 reasons to feel Dr. Buss respected him.
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Old 07-14-2004, 11:35 PM
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Interesting flame-bait article by Chicago Tribune writer Mike Downey about Shaq:

LOS ANGELES -- And then there are those of us who believe the Los Angeles Lakers will be lucky to be rid of Shaquille O'Neal.

The Big Baby. The Big Ego. The Big Pain in the Butt. The Big Mouth. The Big Back-Stabber.




Shaquille O'Neal, who demanded a trade and is bailing out on the fans of L.A. because (boohoo) the Lakers hurt his feelings.

Shaquille O'Neal, who is abandoning his team and his town, exactly the way he did in Orlando.

Shaquille O'Neal, who has a total of three NBA championships in 12 seasons yet calls himself the most dominant player ever.

Shaquille O'Neal, who can't shoot a basketball beyond 2 feet from the basket.

Shaquille O'Neal, the mighty giant who is so fragile that he missed 28 games his last season with Orlando, 31 games his first season as a Laker, 22 games a season later, 15 games in the 2001-02 season and 15 more in 2002-03.

Shaquille O'Neal, who would put off toe surgery all summer and then have it when the season began.

Shaquille O'Neal, who would show up for camp overweight, with body fat of 20 percent.

Shaquille O'Neal, whose own teammate, Kobe Bryant, called him fat and lazy.

Shaquille O'Neal, whose legs get weaker year by year.

Shaquille O'Neal, whose new team in Miami will need to wonder, as Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban put it, "what happens in those 20 to 30 games per year [he] can't play."

Shaquille O'Neal, who mocked his own general manager, Mitch Kupchak, in public.

Shaquille O'Neal, who spat out vulgar words on TV during live interviews.

Shaquille O'Neal, who played Santa for kids at Christmas ... and made sure every TV network in town knew about it.

Shaquille O'Neal, who made 49 percent of his free throws in his 12th NBA season but continued to brag that he could make the important ones anytime he liked.

Shaquille O'Neal, who is being glorified in L.A. as a man who turned the Lakers into champions, when in his first three seasons they won no championships.

Shaquille O'Neal, whose 1996-97 Lakers couldn't even get past Utah in the playoffs.

Shaquille O'Neal, whose 1997-98 Lakers were swept by Utah in four games.

Shaquille O'Neal, whose 1998-99 Lakers got their coach fired in midseason and got blitzed by San Antonio in the playoffs.

Shaquille O'Neal, whose 2003-04 Lakers had the floor mopped up with them by Detroit.

Shaquille O'Neal, who supposedly can turn Miami into a championship team overnight, even though his Orlando team won no titles.

Is it not possible that the Lakers will take the triple-figure millions they save on O'Neal, go out and put together a championship team?

Is it not possible that the Lakers will play more exciting basketball now that they don't need to run Phil Jackson's triangle offense or stand around watching O'Neal blow free throws?

Is it not possible that Lakers owner Jerry Buss was justified in trading a player who demanded to be traded? Who refused to play for a new coach? Who couldn't get along with the team's other star player?

Is it not possible that Los Angeles will be better off, 3,000 miles from Shaquille O'Neal's mumbling, his grumbling, his moping, his malingering and his Grammy-losing rap music?

A lot of people out here obviously think that L.A. is making a big mistake in letting the big man go to Miami.

But there still are a few of us who think that the city that is getting the big problem is Miami.
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