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Old 09-30-2004, 08:55 PM
SmileyEH SmileyEH is offline
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Default Re: why do people call when they know they are beat??

I love the bad beat police.

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Old 10-01-2004, 03:03 AM
Irieguy Irieguy is offline
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Default Re: why do people call when they know they are beat??

The real answer can be found in Abraham Maslow's original draft of his Hierarchy of Needs. Unfortunately, his final draft was edited down to 5 needs (largely because the behaviorists at the time had proven that people shy away from shapes with an odd number of sides containing an even number of items; thus the decision to omit the second of 6 needs in the triangle to give his theory more mass appeal.)

Maslow's Original Hierarchy of Needs:

1. Physiologic Needs
2. THE NEED TO CALL
3. Safety Needs
4. Love Needs
5. Esteem Needs
6. Self-actualization

He explained (in a manner that was well ahead of his time), that after food and water, the most compelling human need is to call when somebody goes all-in. Interestingly, understanding this is the first step towards self-actualization.

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Old 10-01-2004, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: why do people call when they know they are beat??

That was very funny. Hooray funny! Also, hooray beer! Aren't those ads great?
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Old 10-01-2004, 11:40 AM
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He explained (in a manner that was well ahead of his time), that after food and water, the most compelling human need is to call when somebody goes all-in. Interestingly, understanding this is the first step towards self-actualization.

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That was incredibly funny but true. Remember that the next time you check your great hands. They want to call!

Chris
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Old 10-01-2004, 11:48 AM
Sam T. Sam T. is offline
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Default Re: why do people call when they know they are beat??

Now this is funny. Thanks Irieguy.

And if there's anybody here who has never shown down and lost with pocket Kings, knowing in your heart of hearts that you're beat because of the Ace on the board, I'll send you $50.
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Old 10-01-2004, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: why do people call when they know they are beat??

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Now this is funny. Thanks Irieguy.

And if there's anybody here who has never shown down and lost with pocket Kings, knowing in your heart of hearts that you're beat because of the Ace on the board, I'll send you $50.

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You owe me $50, and also for the record; I love the bad beat police.
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Old 10-01-2004, 12:30 PM
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The real answer can be found in Abraham Maslow's original draft of his Hierarchy of Needs. Unfortunately, his final draft was edited down to 5 needs (largely because the behaviorists at the time had proven that people shy away from shapes with an odd number of sides containing an even number of items; thus the decision to omit the second of 6 needs in the triangle to give his theory more mass appeal.)

Maslow's Original Hierarchy of Needs:

1. Physiologic Needs
2. THE NEED TO CALL
3. Safety Needs
4. Love Needs
5. Esteem Needs
6. Self-actualization

Irieguy

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LOL tx Irieguy.

I'm trying to remember my undergrad Psych: but if I understand your clear explanation, if the guy has just gone to take a dump and thus satisfied a critical physiological need, then he will almost certainly move up Maslow's hierarchy and Call the next all-in.
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Old 10-01-2004, 09:41 PM
PuertoKid PuertoKid is offline
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Default Re: why do people call when they know they are beat??

If he were Hemmingway the sentence would be even shorter and there would be no comma:

"I wanted that call not that outcome."
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Old 10-02-2004, 01:48 AM
Irieguy Irieguy is offline
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Default Re: why do people call when they know they are beat??

Normally that would be true, and as Chris intimates above, it would therefore never be correct to slowplay. However wireless technology was not a consideration in Maslow's day... and it is now possible to play poker while simultaneously fulfilling basic physiologic needs.

I estimate my opponents are utilizing technology in this manner in about 4% of the hands I play. Therefore, I slowplay 4% of my big hands, just in case they are busy eating or relieving themselves. I have found that while people are less likely to call all-in when they are stuck on Maslow's first level... they are much more likely to bluff since bluffing is actually a physiologic need. (I'm not afraid to give away this secret because I randomize the 4% with a cool program eastbay wrote for me... making it impossible to counter even if you know how often I slowplay.)

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Old 10-02-2004, 02:13 AM
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If The Fish Don't Win, The Fish Won't Play
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