The "lifespan" of Online Poker - Page 2

SNOWBALL138 · #11 03-24-2005, 01:56 AM

A lot of fish have jobs. Also, a lot of players spend enough time on tilt or playing stakes above their heads and skill level.

Thats the argument for the stability of the poker economy.

On the other hand:

1. Poker books are coming out all the time.
2. Poker videos are coming out all the time.
3. There are a bunch of "rounders" who feel the need to educate players on their bad play. This is -EV. The increase in these "rounders" means more -EV at the poker table.
As a sidenote, these "rounders" should be sought out and killed.

4. The fish attract more smart people who don't want to work a 9 to 5 job. This is just supply and demand working. Poker is becoming a better "job" and therefore there are more applicants, which drives down "wages".

More on this later. I'll edit my post.

Gtg.

sublime · #12 03-24-2005, 09:38 AM

Now the "pro" pokers who earn 200 a week playing poker have a serious gambling problem.

why is that?

RydenStoompala · #13 03-24-2005, 09:54 AM

And for the record...
Most of the people who really are "fish" not only dont know it, they insist that everyone else sucks and they have it all figured out. I've seen more "experts" yacking about correct plays and handing out "you're an idiot" remarks online than should ever be seen. For the most part, they suck as bad at cards as they probably do at everything else in life.

Online is here to stay. It's not just because of the fish, it's because poker is a great game.

Warren Whitmore · #14 03-24-2005, 10:09 AM

Just one thing to add here. The main difference I see between online inferior play and live inferior play is that denial is much more prevalent live.
Lets face it, if you have to make regular deposits to a poker site and have no withdrawls its tough to convince yourself you are a winning player.
This effect tends to funnel the worst players to casinos where instead of blamming cheating players and false shuffles they can chose from a wider variety of delusional activities.

stigmata · #15 03-24-2005, 10:35 AM

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if you have to make regular deposits to a poker site and have no withdrawls its tough to convince yourself you are a winning player.

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Somebody please correct me if i'm wrong, but I have allways been under the impression that variance in poker acts to mask your true win rate.

Without proper bankroll management, it would be pretty easy to convince yourself after a winning streak (and subsequent cashout) that you had "the game sussed", and the times that you blew your money was due to fishy suckouts.

If you imagine the inverse of most 2+2 players (e.g. a -2.5BB/100), then these players are going to have many decent upswings. I find it is all too easy to convince myself I am God's Gift to Poker during a nice upswing, and I imagine it is the same for worse players.

Bill C · #16 03-24-2005, 11:18 AM

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Online is here to stay. It's not just because of the fish, it's because poker is a great game.

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So is backgammon. Seen anybody playing it lately? Fifteen years ago it was nearly as hot as poker is now.

bill

Abu Turab · #17 03-24-2005, 11:54 AM

My take is this: WPT & WSOP helped revive Poker to the masses in general. It has turned people on to a type of game that one may find easier to play than 7 card stud or Omaha for example. That being the case, I also feel that online poker will survive because it is convenient to play if you do not have a casino nearby. That is my case, closest one is two hours and the NYC clubs don't start up until the evening. What I think you will see is this: as the fad peaks(as all fads do)there will be a consolidation of the sites. The smalller players will go under or get wrapped into the "majors" thus leaving a few major players running multi skins.

sublime · #18 03-24-2005, 12:46 PM

So is backgammon. Seen anybody playing it lately? Fifteen years ago it was nearly as hot as poker is now.

yeah great anology [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Mayhap · #19 03-24-2005, 01:14 PM

Because of the internet, there are probably more money games being played than ever before. Go to TrueMoneyGames and check out the high roller action there.
Oh yeah, you can play poker there too.

/M

parttimepro · #20 03-24-2005, 01:37 PM

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So is backgammon. Seen anybody playing it lately? Fifteen years ago it was nearly as hot as poker is now.

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Yeah, I remember when ESPN2 started showing the World Series of Backgammon. That was pretty awesome. We had this huge influx of fish who didn't know a blot from a prime. Then there was that TV show "Doubling Cube" with Christopher Walken. I feel bad for all those "internet backgammon pros" who quit their jobs to multitable backgammon in their underwear...