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Old 12-17-2005, 07:09 PM
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In addition to what PokerGoblin said, just because you are the "best player" doesn't mean you know what you are doing. Lots of weird stuff being done/said that you wouldn't see at a real poker game. Get a rule book and establish a rule sheet to be used for your game so there are no questions. If you were in the process of betting as you say, but have not completed your betting and have realised you are short on chips and state an amount you want to bet, it is not a string raise. Easiest thing to do is state what you want to do before you act.
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:41 PM
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Would you accept this action, especially if you were in a home game, and secondly what would the casino ruling be?

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a) Home Game. Allowed.
Spoken bets are binding. If the chips and the spoken differ - what is spoke is what reigns. Since you stated an amount WHILE you were still placing chips in the center - I'd say the verbal is what was binding.
My game would handle it this way - We'd allow it this once - EVEN if we felt you were angling a touch...just in the spirit of gamesmanship and all....but we'd make sure you knew for next time to state 'raise' or the dollar amount PRIOR to shoving chips in the center. Next time we'd make you take it back.
So...EVEN THOUGH I think its an easily allowable bet in a home game - I do think its closer than you think. You should know enough to know to STATE 'raise.' It could really be seen as angling what you did and I wouldn't blame a host for not allowing it....but we would allow it in my game - the first infraction at least...but maybe not the second one.

2) Casino....50/50....
Honestly it could go either way this one. All depends on the nuance that you can't/didn't describe. If the chips in the center was simultaneously stated with the $ amount w/no peering around at other players in the proces...then YEAH. I would think a casino would allow it. Otherwise it gets dicey.
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Old 12-18-2005, 04:03 AM
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You again? Have you ever been in a casino? The answer is obvious. I'll let others elaborate.
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Old 12-18-2005, 11:44 AM
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You again? Have you ever been in a casino? The answer is obvious. I'll let others elaborate.

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lol. fair enough. no. I was guessing.

Bad guess I take it?
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:51 PM
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All I know is that if you think you always bust aces and kings with 2-6o, I want to play against you.
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Old 12-18-2005, 02:50 PM
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you're right, as others have said. verbal declaration of your bet stands..

but come on man, learn how to make a bet like a man. this stacks of 2 chips thing has to go. cut off bigger stacks
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:33 PM
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First of all sorry if I sounded like a douche. I had to say it was a home game in a college dorm, and the fact that we've been playing for over a year together and nothing like this ever occured. I know as the best player there I'm not necessarily right, which is why I posted here. And furthermore, I do not always think I can bust aces and kings with 26o, but I am always willing to call a raise because I know they cannot lay down aces or kings if I flop big, and I have huge implied odds.

Secondly, it seems that some people think I just throw my chips out and change my mind whenever I want. I never do or intend to do that, and seriously it's just to save time, minimal as it is. Rather than count out how much I want THEN putting it in, I'm doing it AS i put it in. And rather than announce it before I put it in, I announce it AS I'm putting it in. I always declare how much I make it before the last chips leave my hand. I know it sounds dumb, but I like to save time. And yes, I did not have enough chips the first time I stuck my hand in, but before the chips left my hand I verbalized the intention to raise more. Dunno if that works.

And last of all, it IS a casual college game that we used to play pretty much 5 days out of 7 last year, it reduced somewhat this year but it's EXTREMELY casual. Announcing raises and literally saying raise is pretty rare, there's anything from "ill make it 8", "raise 3", "double it", "call and add 4 more" to "i'll put <john> all in" when it's a 5 way pot with everyone still left to act. First time it's come up really. I had to talk about my playstyle and how I busted people with marginal holdings only because I think he was really steamed when I busted him earlier, and had to throw that out to be considered.

SOrry again for sounding like a douche, but obviously us poker players have a bit of a ego to uphold...especially college ones like me
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Old 12-18-2005, 04:31 PM
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it IS a casual college game...it's EXTREMELY casual.

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Then your move should be allowed.

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"call and add 4 more"

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If you allow that - then your move really has to be allowed.
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Old 12-18-2005, 11:48 PM
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They do that every single raise in the Cincinnati Kid..... and it's even stated 'no string bets' but then again, no limit really meant no limit in that movie... not just table stakes (ie. I'll bet twice your net worth.... you can't call? tough luck)
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Old 12-18-2005, 04:41 PM
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Could you remind us two or three times more that you're the best player in your game? Maybe not everyone caught that part the first two couple of times...
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