Washington State bans smoking... with a twist

[Randy_Refeld]

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I talked to my wife about it and commented that it would basically make downtown Seattle a No Smoking Zone. As a former smoker I can understand your frustration, but as a non-smoker I have way more empathy for those who choose not to smoke and are exposed to it anyway. I don't dislike smokers, I dislike smoke.

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As a never-smoker, probably-never-will-smoker, and someone who doesn't care for cigarettes, I think this is completely ridiculous. A sensible restaurant will have a non-smoking section if they don't want to alienate customers, and that's perfectly fine. Anyone bothered by someone passing by them on the streets with a cigarette needs to grow up. It's just one more freedom to take away from us.

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I am torn on these smoking bans. I am generally against the governament interfering in people's private lives; however I have asthma and have had to go to ER from navigating the smoke that lingers outside a building when smokers are allowed to stand in front of the door and smoke.

[ripdog]

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I talked to my wife about it and commented that it would basically make downtown Seattle a No Smoking Zone. As a former smoker I can understand your frustration, but as a non-smoker I have way more empathy for those who choose not to smoke and are exposed to it anyway. I don't dislike smokers, I dislike smoke.

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As a never-smoker, probably-never-will-smoker, and someone who doesn't care for cigarettes, I think this is completely ridiculous. A sensible restaurant will have a non-smoking section if they don't want to alienate customers, and that's perfectly fine. Anyone bothered by someone passing by them on the streets with a cigarette needs to grow up. It's just one more freedom to take away from us.

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It ain't the big bad government that's taking this freedom away, it's the people baby! I think it passed by almost a 7 to 3 margin. As far as needing to grow up, I think it's the selfish cry-baby smokers who ought to do that.

[wmspringer]

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I talked to my wife about it and commented that it would basically make downtown Seattle a No Smoking Zone. As a former smoker I can understand your frustration, but as a non-smoker I have way more empathy for those who choose not to smoke and are exposed to it anyway. I don't dislike smokers, I dislike smoke.

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I dislike the smokers who throw their cigarettes on the ground...but I guess that's more of a dislike of litterers.

As to smoking...I don't care if people do it or not, as long as they don't do it around me. Aggravates my asthma and makes me start coughing :-p

[ThaSaltCracka]

good law, second hand smoke is a bitch. Ban it in public I say.

[bholdr]

"good law, second hand smoke is a bitch. Ban it in public I say."

sounds good, as long as we can ban the smells of fast food and frying bacon in public, too- it's offensive to vegans. Oh yeah... car exaust... loud music... they gotta go: you could get asthma and lose your hearing!

...and don't even get me started on skateboards. [/sarcasam, but you knew that...]

[New001]

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"good law, second hand smoke is a bitch. Ban it in public I say."

sounds good, as long as we can ban the smells of fast food and frying bacon in public, too- it's offensive to vegans. Oh yeah... car exaust... loud music... they gotta go: you could get asthma and lose your hearing!

...and don't even get me started on skateboards. [/sarcasam, but you knew that...]

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Gather majority support for any of those initiatives, and I'm sure you'd have a better case. Good for Washington, it makes me glad I live there when I'm not in school. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[Khern]

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"good law, second hand smoke is a bitch. Ban it in public I say."

sounds good, as long as we can ban the smells of fast food and frying bacon in public, too- it's offensive to vegans. Oh yeah... car exaust... loud music... they gotta go: you could get asthma and lose your hearing!

...and don't even get me started on skateboards. [/sarcasam, but you knew that...]

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Gather majority support for any of those initiatives, and I'm sure you'd have a better case. Good for Washington, it makes me glad I live there when I'm not in school. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Gotta love growing democracies

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Allow me two quotations on the subject:




James Madison, Federalist Paper 10:

"Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."




U.S. Army Training Manual TM2000-05, 1928

Democracy, n. "A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any form of "direct" expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic - negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy."


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[daryn]

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"good law, second hand smoke is a bitch. Ban it in public I say."

sounds good, as long as we can ban the smells of fast food and frying bacon in public, too- it's offensive to vegans. Oh yeah... car exaust... loud music... they gotta go: you could get asthma and lose your hearing!

...and don't even get me started on skateboards. [/sarcasam, but you knew that...]

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come on, even you must know how crazy this is. loud music or fast food smells don't cause cancer.

[hmkpoker]

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good law, second hand smoke is a bitch. Ban it in public I say.

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Wimp.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Rhode Island enacted a smoking ban in all public buildings and businesses.

Except casinos.