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Old 11-17-2005, 04:46 PM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Hi Jeff,

My experience at 10/20 6m is that AK will frequently take precisely this line, as it is a combination value bluff play of sorts. AK is frequently ahead on that board but also would prefer to take down the pot, and sometimes getting a pair to fold is just icing on the cake. I guess I think we are much more likely ahead then the other respondents, but I have not played this (apparently well known) opponent either.

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Old 11-17-2005, 04:49 PM
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A good player who has played a lot of mid limit 6 max should know any piece of that board is probably not folding to a turn checkraise. That's why WHEN HE ACTUALLY CHECKRAISES, it is more likely to be a stronger holding that he wants action on. I'm not saying this is all the time or all players, but it's something I observed. But when he's raised on the flop, he may checkraise the turn...checkraising after he is flat called on the flop is scarier to me if I'm in hero's shoes.

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Old 11-17-2005, 05:33 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default Re: 44 button party 50

seems like people like raising the flop a lot here. i rarely raise the flop in position.

do you think i have enough equity to raise a non-A or nonK turn if I flat call the flop? thats generally my standard line, but i usually play shorter handed.
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Old 11-17-2005, 05:38 PM
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My experience at 10/20 6m is that AK will frequently take precisely this line,

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there is little chance kuka is playing AK like this and this checkraise represents real strength, generally.
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Old 11-17-2005, 06:23 PM
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never sat in the party 50 before. (too long of lists always).

villain is Kukavica, was at all of my tables. only read is that he was 18/15 preflop. call down? call and fold UI? 3bet?


Party Poker 50/100 Hold'em (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4, 4.
6 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 8, 3, 6 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises


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Through ~15k hands, here are the hands Kukavica has 3-bet from the sb (WSD):

33,44,55,66,77,88,99,TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA
A5s,AJs,AQs,AKs
ATo,AJo,AQo,AKo


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Old 11-17-2005, 06:49 PM
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seems like people like raising the flop a lot here. i rarely raise the flop in position.

do you think i have enough equity to raise a non-A or nonK turn if I flat call the flop? thats generally my standard line, but i usually play shorter handed.

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With a small pocket pair in a HU situation I also rarely raise the flop, With this kind of hand I like to see four cards before I decide what to do rather than 3. If I'm out of position I will check and call the flop and then decide what to do on the turn(usually its between betting out or checking and calling again), When I have position I will smooth call most of the time and again make my decision on the turn between calling again or raising.
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