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10-06-2005, 11:33 AM
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Re: 2/5 NL Borgota - Hand Analysis
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and the story continues... Baldy calls time. I sit there and say to myself over and over, I don't think there is any possible way I can fold this hand. My thoughts and analysis on this hand was I really do believe baldy has an overpair and misplayed his hand as he doesnt look like the mindgames type and showed true disgust when the arab pushed all-in. The arabs push represented to me a flush draw because he was just tired of not getting anything.... heres how it plays out "I'm all-in" ($550+). Baldy says "Well now Im priced to call". Flips over AA?!? Arab flips over AK diamonds, I have the best hand with a set of 4's. Turn: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Board: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Brutal! I win that hand and I make roughly $1,100 profit. I can't believe baldy limped on the SB or BB with AA and Arab limped with AKs. My question was my call resulted in a coin-flip for the most part between the arab and I right. He has 12 outs to improve on the flop. Turn I have 10 to improve. But replaying the hand I knew if I called baldy would call which gives me 2:1 on my money. So this is a must call right - just a bad beat. [/ QUOTE ] I'm confused, the board is Board: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] You have 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Arab has A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] for the nut flush. How did you win again? 
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#2
10-06-2005, 01:11 PM
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Re: 2/5 NL Borgota - Hand Analysis
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[ QUOTE ] and the story continues... Baldy calls time. I sit there and say to myself over and over, I don't think there is any possible way I can fold this hand. My thoughts and analysis on this hand was I really do believe baldy has an overpair and misplayed his hand as he doesnt look like the mindgames type and showed true disgust when the arab pushed all-in. The arabs push represented to me a flush draw because he was just tired of not getting anything.... heres how it plays out "I'm all-in" ($550+). Baldy says "Well now Im priced to call". Flips over AA?!? Arab flips over AK diamonds, I have the best hand with a set of 4's. Turn: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Board: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Brutal! I win that hand and I make roughly $1,100 profit. I can't believe baldy limped on the SB or BB with AA and Arab limped with AKs. My question was my call resulted in a coin-flip for the most part between the arab and I right. He has 12 outs to improve on the flop. Turn I have 10 to improve. But replaying the hand I knew if I called baldy would call which gives me 2:1 on my money. So this is a must call right - just a bad beat. [/ QUOTE ] I'm confused, the board is Board: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] You have 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Arab has A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] for the nut flush. How did you win again? [/ QUOTE ] "Brutal! I win that hand and I make roughly $1,100 profit. I can't believe baldy limped on the SB or BB with AA and Arab limped with AKs." I lost.. thats where the Brutal! came from. It should say "If I win that hand" but it is obvious I did not win.
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10-06-2005, 10:45 AM
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Re: 2/5 NL Borgota - Hand Analysis
At the borgata 2-5 game, there is no way you can fold this hand. AK with one or no diamonds could be very likely here as well as any pocket pair.
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10-06-2005, 11:00 AM
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At the borgata 2-5 game, there is no way you can fold this hand. AK with one or no diamonds could be very likely here as well as any pocket pair. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you say that? Due to the loose, aggresive, wild play at times?
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#6
10-06-2005, 11:48 AM
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Re: 2/5 NL Borgota - Hand Analysis
The play is awful. Often times, 77 would get his money in here thinking he's ahead. A lot of people come to the Borgata to gamble, and that means any ace, five or 2 diamonds and they still have a chance to win. They are in.
Last time I was there, I played 2/5 when this went down. Some guy raised to 50 preflop. This other guy (who was there for the WPT), reraised to 250. A kid who was clearly an internet player (claimed to 4 table 100 dollar SNG's for a living), hems and haws on the BB and was like, who am I kidding, I'm just hollywooding, this is a must fold. He folds. Other 2 get all in. Original raiser has 77 and LP has 99. The kid looked in shock saying he had JJ (I geniunely believed him). Clearly, I still advocate the same thought proccess as you'd go over any hand, but take into account that there's a much wider range of hands at 2/5 NL. Maybe I'd compare it to .5/.10 NL on Stars.
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#7
10-06-2005, 11:16 PM
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Re: 2/5 NL Borgota - Hand Analysis
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At the borgata 2-5 game, there is no way you can fold this hand. AK with one or no diamonds could be very likely here as well as any pocket pair. [/ QUOTE ] You obviously have no idea what the play at Borgata is like (in fact you don't even know that the casino's name has no "the" in it; rather it is simply "Borgata") If you have logged as many hours in the 2-5 game as I have, you would know that the villain almost certainly is holding a 2. His hand range is roughly 80% 26os, or if his is a good player, A2os and has reasoned that his A pair outs are good. In the future, PLEASE try and get a feel for the nature of the game you are discussing before commenting. Pachenga!!!!!!!!!
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#8
10-07-2005, 08:43 AM
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Re: 2/5 NL Borgota - Hand Analysis
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[ QUOTE ] At the borgata 2-5 game, there is no way you can fold this hand. AK with one or no diamonds could be very likely here as well as any pocket pair. [/ QUOTE ] You obviously have no idea what the play at Borgata is like (in fact you don't even know that the casino's name has no "the" in it; rather it is simply "Borgata") If you have logged as many hours in the 2-5 game as I have, you would know that the villain almost certainly is holding a 2. His hand range is roughly 80% 26os, or if his is a good player, A2os and has reasoned that his A pair outs are good. In the future, PLEASE try and get a feel for the nature of the game you are discussing before commenting. Pachenga!!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] I had a great time logging collectively 22 hrs playing 2/5 this weekend at Borgota. Question, where is the Pachenga from? Sam H. a regular, fun-great guy to play with always says pachenga hoping to suck out. On another note to all you tools that hi-jacked this thread with arguments on durkah-durkah and racism. Who cares and take it to another forum. Main guy - Jason. Get a life, everyone is entitled to their own opionon and if you get fired up about a durkah-durkah comment you need to get out more - oh... and rent Team America and watch it 5 times over in a day, I am sure you will explode.
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#9
10-06-2005, 11:15 AM
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Re: 2/5 NL Borgota - Hand Analysis
Lets assume you know they have you beat for sure the odds that you will hit a full house on the river are roughly 1.6 to 1, and even if they have straights your odds actually increase to maybe like 1.3 to 1.
So here you will roughly be getting 2 to 1 on your cash and you are thinking about folding...... you can't even if you know you are beat..... you have to push here. One other thing.... and this is something the books don't tell you...... lets say you know for sure that you are beat..... but you are getting the right odds to chase but above all the money means something to you... then don't call..... keep the money and wait for a better spot as silly as it sounds.
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