Why dont people like Moneymaker? - Page 2

J.R. · #11 04-09-2004, 01:02 PM

How many bracelets has Howard Lederer won?

at least two

2001 5K No-limit duece to seven

2000 WSOP 5K Omaha Hi/Lo

dondale56 · #12 04-09-2004, 01:19 PM

It's not just online players who might look on him negatively. The pros do too.

I was in Vegas in Feb. and talked to some pros. I asked them to rate Moneymaker as a player on a scale of 1-10. One of them tried to be diplomatic, but the other came right out and said "A 5 and a damned lucky 5 at that". They went on to analyze his playing and you had the feeling that he may have been the winner last year, but his still considered "dead money" by the pros.

Donna

SinCityGuy · #13 04-09-2004, 01:23 PM

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They went on to analyze his playing and you had the feeling that he may have been the winner last year, but his still considered "dead money" by the pros.

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Dead money?

M.B.E. · #14 04-09-2004, 02:40 PM

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I'm not saying he's the best that ever was and I really don't know the guy, but he's milking his 15 minutes of fame to the max.

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What do you mean by this? I cannot think of one instance of him "milking" his fame, other than the Letterman appearance.

Clarkmeister · #15 04-09-2004, 03:24 PM

I played with him the other week in a ring game. He is better than a 5.

SinCityGuy · #16 04-09-2004, 03:32 PM

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I played with him the other week in a ring game. He is better than a 5.

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Clarkmeister,

Was that at a 20/40 game in the lower area where the keno room used to be? I saw him sitting in that game on a Saturday night a couple weeks ago.

LetsRock · #17 04-09-2004, 03:45 PM

Well, then maybe someone is milking his fame for him. Anyone who goes from accountant to poker celebrity overnight (just because he won one tournament), and then goes on WPT tour, is getting a little more attention then necessary.

I have nothing against him - I'd probably do the same if $3 million landed in my lap and I got the chance to live the life for a while. But for the WPT to be pushing his name around so much is a little absurd.

B Dids · #18 04-09-2004, 04:17 PM

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Well, then maybe someone is milking his fame for him. Anyone who goes from accountant to poker celebrity overnight (just because he won one tournament), and then goes on WPT tour, is getting a little more attention then necessary.

I have nothing against him - I'd probably do the same if $3 million landed in my lap and I got the chance to live the life for a while. But for the WPT to be pushing his name around so much is a little absurd.

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He didn't win "one tournament" he won the highest visability tournament there is. More over, it didn't "fall in his lap" he won it, against the best players in the game.

Like it or not- he's probably the biggest name in poker to the people who don't follow the game. So if you're the WPT- you'll promote the one name that people will recognize.

Hate the game, not the player.

SinCityGuy · #19 04-09-2004, 04:33 PM

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He didn't win "one tournament" he won the highest visability tournament there is. More over, it didn't "fall in his lap" he won it, against the best players in the game.

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Forgive me for sounding like a broken record, but he also just finished second in another tournament against another large field, including many top tournament pros.

Clarkmeister · #20 04-09-2004, 04:34 PM

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I played with him the other week in a ring game. He is better than a 5.

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Clarkmeister,

Was that at a 20/40 game in the lower area where the keno room used to be? I saw him sitting in that game on a Saturday night a couple weeks ago.

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We played about 5 hours of 40-80 together. He played well.