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Old 07-06-2005, 04:04 PM
MoreWineII MoreWineII is offline
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Default Re: Piniella slides a little further off the deep end

I think that the whole starter, middle reliever, set-up man, closer idea is horseshit and I always have. If you have a pitcher who's good and who's rested, put him in the game. I don't care what label you've put on him.

If you think about it, that's like saying a certain basketball player can't play in the fourth quarter. He's only a first half guy.

But I don't think you'd find many people, especially in MLB, who'd agree with that.

That said, I think his actions may...uh...not be ideal if he ever wants to coach in the bigs again.
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Old 07-06-2005, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: Piniella slides a little further off the deep end

I will enjoy seeing this but I have thought about a different kind of situation that happens all the time. Tell me what you guys think.

Your starter goes 7 but is obviously done. Due up for the other team is their 3-4-5 or 2-3-4 or whatever the heart of the lineup. Why don't you throw you best relief pitcher (probably your closer) in the 8th, then put you set-up man out there for the 9th when the bottom of the order is due up.
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Old 07-06-2005, 04:19 PM
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Because being different is scary.
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Old 07-06-2005, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Piniella slides a little further off the deep end

I think teams get caught up in the whole stats world with saves. Who cares about saves if you are winning games.

Don't you always want to have your best available to face their best in the late innings of a close game.
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Old 07-06-2005, 05:00 PM
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I think teams get caught up in the whole stats world with saves. Who cares about saves if you are winning games.

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Old 07-06-2005, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: Piniella slides a little further off the deep end

I thought last October that the Dodgers should have let Gagne start at least one game in the NLDS. It's better than stupidly letting him pitch the eighth inning when his team is down 8-3. At least by starting him you guarantee he pitches an important inning or two.
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Old 07-06-2005, 05:10 PM
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I think teams get caught up in the whole stats world with saves. Who cares about saves if you are winning games.

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Old 07-06-2005, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Piniella slides a little further off the deep end

Meh, Piniella pussied out. Oh well.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:35 AM
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Pinella kicks ass. I still tell the story about the time he got thrown out of a game and started to kick dirt on the plate. After a few seconds he decided that wasn't enough and started scooping handfuls of dirt on the plate. When the plate was no longer visible he left.
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Old 07-07-2005, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: Piniella slides a little further off the deep end

Here in Japan, for some ungodly reason, they still show all the hideo nomo games, so I get to watch the Devil Rays a little. If I had to manage that team, I'd probably want to get fired too. I mean, these nomo games are ugly. Talk about not being able to get anybody out all.
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