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Old 08-08-2005, 01:32 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: Am I correct to raise this flop with just a flush draw?

Excellent flop raise. The field is trapped, and you're pumping your flush.

When it's checked to me on the turn, I fire again, hoping to fold everybody out. If c/r'd on the turn I call, and fold the river UI.
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Old 08-08-2005, 01:48 PM
deception5 deception5 is offline
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Default Re: Am I correct to raise this flop with just a flush draw?

The flop is fine. The turn is also perfect - you aren't winning this pot unimproved so take the free card.
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Old 08-08-2005, 01:50 PM
GrunchCan GrunchCan is offline
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Default Re: Am I correct to raise this flop with just a flush draw?

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If all 3 players call, it's for value

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How so? Let's see some math.
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Old 08-08-2005, 04:04 PM
Raza Raza is offline
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Default Re: Am I correct to raise this flop with just a flush draw?

My reasoning was that you have 8 club outs plus 3 straight outs (that don't pair the board). Some of the times the 3 of clubs will be an out and some of the time the remaining aces will be outs. 12 outs is 2.83 to 1 to come home by the river.

I'm taking another look, and I suppose after all the flop action, it's likely that a 9 is out there, in which case, you don't want that player's kicker to pair, some of the time 23 is out there, and some of the time you will be drawing dead to a full house that's about to check raise. To be honest I didn't really consider hand ranges, and now a bet looks a lot less attractive, and probably isn't for value if they all call.
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