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Re: 3-betting as opposed to folding situations
We now have 3 people who have said they would sometimes 3-bet with JTs. I think that is awful. Who knows, maybe I am wrong though.
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Re: 3-betting as opposed to folding situations
Seeing these responses, perhaps I haven't been missing out on chances after all.
I'm just trying to come up with some borderline hands for 3-betting. Clear 3 bets to me are: AK, AQ, AJs, KQs and pocket pairs of 88 and up. If the ones I mentioned before were clear folds, then how do people feel about 3-betting with AJo, A10s, A10o, KQo and 77 (with the lineup I mentioned before)? |
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Re: 3-betting as opposed to folding situations
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If the ones I mentioned before were clear folds, then how do people feel about 3-betting with AJo, A10s, A10o, KQo and 77 (with the lineup I mentioned before)? [/ QUOTE ] I 3-bet all of these hands pretty often, but not always. Sometimes I fold them if the raiser is too tight, and in an early position. Err, 77 I never fold. |
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Re: 3-betting as opposed to folding situations
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We now have 3 people who have said they would sometimes 3-bet with JTs. I think that is awful. Who knows, maybe I am wrong though. [/ QUOTE ] Usually it's awful. If the initial better is weak-tight post flop though, you've got a good shot at getting them to fold a better hand (AK/AQ/AJ/AT) that misses the flop because you're showing you've got them beat. To some extent, you could pull this stunt with any 2 cards, but JTs is a semi-bluff since you can actually hit something and(this is important) it's a hand where you don't mind the blinds coming in. Trying this move with 27o just because the initial raiser is weak-tight leaves you totally screwed if one or both blinds come in. Still, it's usually terrible. |
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Re: 3-betting as opposed to folding situations
But ckessel, one of my questions specifically was directed to 3-betting a weak/tight player, when we know the blinds will fold. So under your reasoning, why are we 3-betting there with just J10s of the hands I originally mentioned?
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Re: 3-betting as opposed to folding situations
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But ckessel, one of my questions specifically was directed to 3-betting a weak/tight player, when we know the blinds will fold. So under your reasoning, why are we 3-betting there with just J10s of the hands I originally mentioned? [/ QUOTE ] JTs is a candidate because I think it's less likely to be dominated than a K, Q, or weak Ax hand. JTs also has more potential to flop a made hand or draw, while KTo or A8s is less likely to flop a good draw and any pair you hit is very suspect to domination. JT is suspect as well, but I don't think as suspect as a A, K or Q against a weak-tight raiser. And you can't assume the blinds will fold. You can hope, but if one of them has a hand, they'll come along. JTs is more flexible if a blind calls or raises. If you 3 bet A8s and a blind calls, there's a damn good chance he also dominates your Ace. JTs may be dominated, but it plays multiway better than A8s will. Again though, I think 3-betting any of the hands is usually bad, even on a weak-tight raiser. If I was going to pick one of the hands to occasionally make a move with though, it'd be JTs. |
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Re: 3-betting as opposed to folding situations
What do you guys think of 3-betting pps? I like to do it a LOT. I know that they probably dont have equity by themselves but they play so good in position. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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