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Old 07-07-2005, 12:11 AM
joewatch joewatch is offline
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Eh. I think this is weak. 3:1 is good enough for most people with sets to call, figuring they can eek out the remaining neccessary odds with implied odds - Most people figure they can extract some money out of the flush-holder on a river-paired board.

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Toddster, if you don't understand why getting somebody to call with the incorrect odds is +EV, you need to read 2+2's definitive book The Theory of Poker. On the other hand, if you ARE giving villains the correct implied to call a 3:1 bet, you are paying off way to often on the river.
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:02 AM
Toddster18 Toddster18 is offline
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Eh. I think this is weak. 3:1 is good enough for most people with sets to call, figuring they can eek out the remaining neccessary odds with implied odds - Most people figure they can extract some money out of the flush-holder on a river-paired board.

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Toddster, if you don't understand why getting somebody to call with the incorrect odds is +EV, you need to read 2+2's definitive book The Theory of Poker. On the other hand, if you ARE giving villains the correct implied to call a 3:1 bet, you are paying off way to often on the river.

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Joewatch-

A) Typo. Should have read 2:1, i.e. - many players at this level will call with top set, figuring they will get money if the board pairs. (And how the hell would my typo imply that I don't understand that when an opponents makes a mistake, you are making money?)

B) Don't patronize. Come on, man.

C) I still feel that betting a fraction of the pot with an Ace High flush on an unpaired board is weak. It simply allows drawers to draw cheaper when in fact if they are drawing, and are willing to call somewhat incorrectly, they are probably willing to call more incorrectly. Right?

-Todd
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Old 07-08-2005, 11:41 AM
Tilt Tilt is offline
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Default Re: Fun with Monsters ... [under the bed]

Toddster - what were the results here? I'd be interested to know.
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Old 07-08-2005, 02:08 PM
Toddster18 Toddster18 is offline
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Toddster - what were the results here? I'd be interested to know.

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I called. Villain showed down T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]xx for the flopped uber-nuts.

-Todd
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Old 07-15-2005, 08:14 AM
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OUCH.
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